From: David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate on
Stanislas de Kertanguy <stanislas.dekertanguy(a)lesptt.net> wrote:

> Il se trouve que David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of
> city south and deansgate a formul :
> > Stanislas de Kertanguy <stanislas.dekertanguy(a)lesptt.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Mxsmanic a pens trs fort :
> >>> Music uses tones and
> >>> timbres that are pleasing to the ear and arranges them in mathematical
> >>> relationships to each other that also are pleasing to the ear. Noise
> >>> does not.
> >>
> >> That does not apply to atonal music, or to dodecaphonic music. The
> >> latter does not match your point about being pleasing to the ear,
> >
> > Oh, but atonal music is often pleasing to _my_ ear. That's all that
> > matters, really. Mixi really is up the creek on this one- he doesn't
> > have a clue what he's talking about. Very illuminating!
>
> Yes, I like it very much too, but I wanted to point out that it does
> not follow the rules of classical harmony that "forbid" the use of
> concords that are deemed unpleasant to the ear (the tritone, for
> instance), or demand that the closing note is the tonal one to
> "appease" the ear

Yes, and if you want to narrow the field to classical music, even what
is and isn't a 'dissonance' has changed over centuries.

Still, we ought to listen to Mixi on this subject- he has so much to say
on it! :)

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From: The Reid on
Following up to Carole Allen

>By definition, those with AS have a normal IQ and many individuals
>(although not all), exhibit exceptional skill or talent in a specific
>area. Because of their high degree of functionality and their naivet,

there was an autistic chap on the radio who could speak 10
languages and recite pie to 2000 places but didnt know left from
right.
--
Mike Reid
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Walk-eat-photos Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
From: barney2 on
In article <04am9e.2h.ln(a)wschwanke.de>, see(a)sig.nature (Wolfgang Schwanke)
wrote:

> *From:* Wolfgang Schwanke <see(a)sig.nature>
> *Date:* Thu, 20 Jul 2006 00:01:36 +0200
>
> "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evgmsop(a)earthlink.net> wrote in
> news:e9k80u31i3a(a)news2.newsguy.com:
>
> >
> >
> > Wolfgang Schwanke wrote:
> >
> >> Actually there's a whole language built on that concept. It's a
> >> constructed language based on Latin which any speaker of a modern
> >> Romance language can understand on the spot. Google "Interlingua",
> >> there are numerous websites in that language. I bet you can read
> > them >fluently. But to speak or write it, you have to study it first.
> >
> > Is that the same as "Esperanto", or something different?
>
> Different. Both are constructed languages (out of several hundred
> others), but the concepts are completely different. Esperanto is a kind
> of linguistic Frankenstein monster with vocabulary taken from many
> different European languages mixed together. You have to study it in
> order to understand anything.

Not really - purely on the basis of English and a couple of half-known
Romance languages, I can pretty well understand the first Esperanto
sentence I managed to find on the Web just now:

La Akademio de Esperanto estas sendependa lingva institucio, kies tasko
estas konservi kaj protekti la fundamentajn principojn de la lingvo
Esperanto kaj kontroli gian evoluon.

(The Academy of Esperanto is an independent linguistic institution, whose
task is to conserve and protect the fundamental principles of the
Esperanto language and control its evolution.)

From: The Reid on
Following up to David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy
of city south and deansgate

>> That does not apply to atonal music, or to dodecaphonic music. The
>> latter does not match your point about being pleasing to the ear,
>
>Oh, but atonal music is often pleasing to _my_ ear. That's all that
>matters, really. Mixi really is up the creek on this one- he doesn't
>have a clue what he's talking about. Very illuminating!

he's not the only one, all this horizontal and vertical atonal
dodoecaphonic modulation stuff goes right over my head, whats
wrong with a nice tune? Do you know "Yellow submarine"?

Why did he start a musical theory argument with a composer and an
opera singer certain to see it, thats not very bright, is it?
--
Mike Reid
Walk-eat-photos UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
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From: EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) on


Mxsmanic wrote:

> Carole Allen writes:
>
>
>>WHY will a compromised immune system produce fewer symptoms than a
>>healthy one?
>
>
> As I have explained again, and again, and again, the symptoms of a
> cold come from the immune response to the virus, not the virus itself.

How odd that no one seems to accept what you claim is true!
(Perhaps it's because so many of your pronouncements - on
every conceivable subject - contradict known fact, so only
you believe them.)
>