From: Ari on 14 Jun 2010 13:26 On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 19:40:16 -0500, Dillon Pyron wrote: > [Default] Thus spake Ari <AriSilverstein(a)yahoo.com>: > >>On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:38:37 -0500, Dillon Pyron wrote: >> >>> [Default] Thus spake "LVTravel" <none(a)nothere.com>: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>"Ohioguy" <none(a)none.net> wrote in message >>>>news:27dPn.124143$gv4.62731(a)newsfe09.iad... >>>>> My wife was getting on me about getting a passport. I've never needed >>>>> one before, because when I went to Canada you still didn't need one, and >>>>> most of my travel is inside the US. >>>>> >>>>> http://cruises.about.com/cs/officialinfo/ht/passport.htm >>>>> >>>>> At first I read the above article, which has no date but is still >>>>> "dated", evidently, because it said no passport is needed for cruises to >>>>> the Caribbean. It mentioned a "Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative" or >>>>> somesuch card, which I guess has now been replaced with a "US Passport >>>>> Card". >>>>> >>>>> Anybody ever used a "US Passport Card" ?? It is unlikely that I'll be >>>>> flying to another country, so that would probably be fine with me. >>>> >>>>Even if you do not need a passport to cruise if something happened and you >>>>had to fly home in an emergency you would have great issues in getting back >>>>into the US. The passport is necessary to fly into the US. >>> >>> In the event that you need to fly back to the US, TSA can hold you for >>> up to three business days while they determine your status. If you >>> actually need to be hospitalized you'll go, but you'll have a "guest" >>> with you. And your family will get to sit around in a room in (not >>> at) the airport. >> >>Three days min. If they decide to invoke a security status, as long as >>they want. > > Yeah, but at least you won't get a free trip back to the Caribbean. To > that oh so special island. Or chunk thereof. :) -- Ari's Fun Times! http://tr.im/hrFG Motto: Run, rabbit, Run!
From: Ari on 14 Jun 2010 13:28 On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 19:43:09 -0500, Dillon Pyron wrote: > [Default] Thus spake Ari <AriSilverstein(a)yahoo.com>: > >>On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 05:56:31 -0400, Charles wrote: >> >>> In article <9ch316pctbqauee5019du1ssha3h9odafb(a)4ax.com>, Jack Hamilton >>> <jfh(a)acm.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Also Bermuda and some Caribbean islands. Oddly, the passport card isn't >>>> valid for sea entry into France even though France is closer to the US >>>> than are some of the Caribbean islands for which the card is valid. >>> >>> It seems odd to you because you misunderstand the purpose of the >>> passport card. >> >>Which is...?Let me help you. >> >>The U.S. Passport Card can be used to enter the United States from >>Canada, Mexico, the Caribbean, and Bermuda at land border crossings or >>sea ports-of-entry. it is a matter of it being more convenient and >>less expensive than a passport book. >> > > Sadly, athough it's touted as being "less expensive", that's only if > you get it once and don't renew at any time after it expires. Over > the course of ten years, they cost exactly the same, but the card is > so limited in use as to be worthless. IMnsHO. Non-drivers, fits in a wallet e.g. DUI/DWI probationers. Other than that, agreed. I smile when I see ppl use the term "lug" their passport. Especially women. -- Ari's Fun Times! http://tr.im/hrFG Motto: Run, rabbit, Run!
From: Becca on 14 Jun 2010 13:34 On 6/13/2010 7:39 PM, Dillon Pyron wrote: > [Default] Thus spake Lee<no(a)2.spam>: > > >> On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:36:41 -0500, Dillon Pyron>Okay, this doesn't >> apply anymore, but back around 98 Continental ran a >> >>> special. $99 each way Houston to Paris. >>> >> Paris, Texas? >> > Yeah, and then on to Athens and finally Palestine. > I've gone diving in Athens, but it was in a quarry. It was Halloween, so we were diving for valuable (?) prizes. I won a pink tank knocker. Becca
From: Ari on 14 Jun 2010 13:36 On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 21:38:34 -0400, Bill wrote: > On 6/13/2010 8:43 PM, Dillon Pyron wrote: > >> Sadly, although it's touted as being "less expensive", that's only if >> you get it once and don't renew at any time after it expires. Over >> the course of ten years, they cost exactly the same, but the card is >> so limited in use as to be worthless. IMnsHO. > > Why do you say that? According to the website, the initial cost is $45 > and it is valid for 10 years, same as a normal passport. The only time > it would be more expensive is if you decide that you need a real > passport during those 10 years, and even then, as many people have said, > it's good for 10 years. > > http://travel.state.gov/passport/ppt_card/ppt_card_3926.html > > Bill The passport card is all about automating the travel for neighboring regions, it's about matching credentials to a gov't DB and upping homeland insecurity. Er, security. They ought to give it away if its such a great anti-terrorist defense token. -- Ari's Fun Times! http://tr.im/hrFG Motto: Run, rabbit, Run!
From: Ohioguy on 16 Jun 2010 13:29
I ended up getting both the Passport and the Passport Card on Monday. I was tempted to just get the Passport Card, but I checked over the list of countries, and 1 stop in the Caribbean was not on the list. This probably wouldn't have been a problem, because I'm not likely to go ashore a lot, but my wife seems to think we may possibly fly to Europe or somewhere in 5 or 6 years. I guess it will be convenient to already have the passport, if so. |