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From: Dillon Pyron on 11 Jun 2010 12:36 [Default] Thus spake Tom K <tkanitra(a)optonline.net>: >On 6/7/10 5:00 PM, Ohioguy wrote: >> My wife was getting on me about getting a passport. I've never needed >> one before, because when I went to Canada you still didn't need one, and >> most of my travel is inside the US. >> >> http://cruises.about.com/cs/officialinfo/ht/passport.htm >> >> At first I read the above article, which has no date but is still >> "dated", evidently, because it said no passport is needed for cruises to >> the Caribbean. It mentioned a "Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative" or >> somesuch card, which I guess has now been replaced with a "US Passport >> Card". >> >> Anybody ever used a "US Passport Card" ?? It is unlikely that I'll be >> flying to another country, so that would probably be fine with me. > > >The passport card is pretty much a waste. Just get a regular passport. > It's not like the cost is that different. But just suppose... let's >say you twist an ankle or something like that, and need to fly back to >the US. Or you miss the ship because of an excursion... or whatever. >But let's just say you need to fly back for some reason half way through >the cruise. A passport lets you. > >Or let's say your wife likes it... and next year wants to go on a >Mediterranean cruise... you're set with the passport. > >--Tom Okay, this doesn't apply anymore, but back around 98 Continental ran a special. $99 each way Houston to Paris. Limited number of seats on a limited number of flights, offer popped up at midnight and flights started leaving in two days. Can't do that without a passport. I decided to go to Australia with Carol on a Monday evening. Leaving the following Sunday. I had my visa aobut a minute after I booked the flights ($999 LAX-SYD). Can't do that without a passport. I have a friend who flew to Calgary last year for a dog show (one of her dogs is rated #2 in the country in his class in Agility). CDTWAP. And so on and so forth. Or, to quote the late, great Yul Bryner, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. -- - dillon I am not invalid Warick: "Who brings a gun to a knife fight?" Gil: "The winner?"
From: Dillon Pyron on 11 Jun 2010 12:38 [Default] Thus spake "LVTravel" <none(a)nothere.com>: > > >"Ohioguy" <none(a)none.net> wrote in message >news:27dPn.124143$gv4.62731(a)newsfe09.iad... >> My wife was getting on me about getting a passport. I've never needed >> one before, because when I went to Canada you still didn't need one, and >> most of my travel is inside the US. >> >> http://cruises.about.com/cs/officialinfo/ht/passport.htm >> >> At first I read the above article, which has no date but is still >> "dated", evidently, because it said no passport is needed for cruises to >> the Caribbean. It mentioned a "Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative" or >> somesuch card, which I guess has now been replaced with a "US Passport >> Card". >> >> Anybody ever used a "US Passport Card" ?? It is unlikely that I'll be >> flying to another country, so that would probably be fine with me. > >Even if you do not need a passport to cruise if something happened and you >had to fly home in an emergency you would have great issues in getting back >into the US. The passport is necessary to fly into the US. In the event that you need to fly back to the US, TSA can hold you for up to three business days while they determine your status. If you actually need to be hospitalized you'll go, but you'll have a "guest" with you. And your family will get to sit around in a room in (not at) the airport. -- - dillon I am not invalid Warick: "Who brings a gun to a knife fight?" Gil: "The winner?"
From: Ari on 11 Jun 2010 19:13 On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:28:12 -0500, Dillon Pyron wrote: > [Default] Thus spake Stu <info(a)foodforu.ca>: > >>On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 16:20:45 -0500, AZ Nomad >><aznomad.3(a)PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote: >> >>>On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:00:42 -0400, Ohioguy <none(a)none.net> wrote: >>>> My wife was getting on me about getting a passport. I've never >>>>needed one before, because when I went to Canada you still didn't need >>>>one, and most of my travel is inside the US. >>> >>>why don't you read the documentation handed to you by the company >>>you're cruising with? >> >>If you're crusin you need a passport, if you come to Canada next time >>you'll need a passport. > > Not in any way correct. None whatsoever. Nowhere near. We'll see as the Real ID Card was to be the cross-Canadian identify and travel tracking verification card. It's behind schedule so... -- Ari's Fun Times! http://tr.im/hrFG Motto: Run, rabbit, Run!
From: Ari on 11 Jun 2010 19:14 On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:38:37 -0500, Dillon Pyron wrote: > [Default] Thus spake "LVTravel" <none(a)nothere.com>: > >> >> >>"Ohioguy" <none(a)none.net> wrote in message >>news:27dPn.124143$gv4.62731(a)newsfe09.iad... >>> My wife was getting on me about getting a passport. I've never needed >>> one before, because when I went to Canada you still didn't need one, and >>> most of my travel is inside the US. >>> >>> http://cruises.about.com/cs/officialinfo/ht/passport.htm >>> >>> At first I read the above article, which has no date but is still >>> "dated", evidently, because it said no passport is needed for cruises to >>> the Caribbean. It mentioned a "Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative" or >>> somesuch card, which I guess has now been replaced with a "US Passport >>> Card". >>> >>> Anybody ever used a "US Passport Card" ?? It is unlikely that I'll be >>> flying to another country, so that would probably be fine with me. >> >>Even if you do not need a passport to cruise if something happened and you >>had to fly home in an emergency you would have great issues in getting back >>into the US. The passport is necessary to fly into the US. > > In the event that you need to fly back to the US, TSA can hold you for > up to three business days while they determine your status. If you > actually need to be hospitalized you'll go, but you'll have a "guest" > with you. And your family will get to sit around in a room in (not > at) the airport. Three days min. If they decide to invoke a security status, as long as they want. -- Ari's Fun Times! http://tr.im/hrFG Motto: Run, rabbit, Run!
From: Jack Hamilton on 11 Jun 2010 20:00
On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 05:56:31 -0400, Charles <fort(a)his.com.remove.invalid> wrote: >In article <9ch316pctbqauee5019du1ssha3h9odafb(a)4ax.com>, Jack Hamilton ><jfh(a)acm.org> wrote: > >> Also Bermuda and some Caribbean islands. Oddly, the passport card isn't >> valid for sea entry into France even though France is closer to the US >> than are some of the Caribbean islands for which the card is valid. > >It seems odd to you because you misunderstand the purpose of the >passport card. "The passport card is the wallet-size travel document that can only be used to re-enter the United States at land border-crossings and sea ports-of-entry from Canada, Mexico, the Caribbean, and Bermuda. The card provides a less expensive, smaller, and convenient alternative to the passport book for those who travel frequently to these destinations by land or by sea." The restriction to Canada, Mexico, Bermuda, and some islands in the Caribbean (not all of them) is entirely arbitrary. There is regular ferry service (in the summer) between Canada and France - it takes about an hour. So why should the passport card not be good for that? |