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From: Ginny Favers on 7 Jul 2010 21:30
On 7/7/2010 1:42 PM, Keane wrote:

>
> Don't any of the paint companies have a program out yet that let's you
> design your paint layout on the computer?
>
> You'll have to adjust your gamma, but that's easily enough done...
>
> Keane

For you, maybe. There are no tech savvy people in my house.

~Amanda
From: Keane on 8 Jul 2010 05:17
On Wed, 07 Jul 2010 16:29:58 -0500, Rudeney <rudeney(a)mickeypics.com>
wrote:

>On 7/7/2010 1:27 PM, Steve Russo wrote:
>> On Jul 7, 1:42 pm, Keane<ke...(a)keanespics.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 16:47:06 -0500, Rudeney<rude...(a)mickeypics.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> If you do a lot of home improvements, you might want to invest in a good
>>>> paint color chart. We get them from Sherwin Williams (Home Depot can
>>>> match their colors by number code on the computer). IIRC< they charge
>>>> about $10 for a paint chart, but sometime,s if you ask nicely, they'll
>>>> give them to you for free.
>>>
>>> Don't any of the paint companies have a program out yet that let's you
>>> design your paint layout on the computer?
>>>
>>> You'll have to adjust your gamma, but that's easily enough done...
>>>
>> I've recently used one on Sherwin Williams site. Take some digital
>> photos, upload them, then re-color to your heart's content. It's
>> actually fun and helps those that are imagination-impaired (like me)
>> actually envision the "after".
>
>My concern would be in calibration of all that - your camera plus your
>monitor. With the physical color chart, you can see exactly what the
>finished product will look like, no questions about calibration. Also,
>Home Depot now does samples. We were repainting the living room and
>couldn't decide on colors so I bought samples of several possibilities
>and painted a good section of several walls. We ended up with the
>darker choice, even though it was, on the chart, our least favorite
>because we thought it would be too dark.

Any decent photo editor (or even graphics card) has a way to adjust
the gamma of the monitor, which will get you close to real colors and
brightness, assuming a decent monitor. (It's under 'gamma', or
'adjust desktop color settings', or something similar.)

Then there are widely used color profiles that let you calibrate your
sceen and printer. I think I have about 10 of them. (I only use one
or two.)

Keane
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From: Keane on 8 Jul 2010 05:56
On Wed, 07 Jul 2010 21:30:09 -0400, Ginny Favers
<ginnyfavers(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>On 7/7/2010 1:42 PM, Keane wrote:
>
>>
>> Don't any of the paint companies have a program out yet that let's you
>> design your paint layout on the computer?
>>
>> You'll have to adjust your gamma, but that's easily enough done...
>>
>> Keane
>
>For you, maybe. There are no tech savvy people in my house.
>
>~Amanda

To adjust the gamma on most systems, you have a gray box within
another gray box, and you move a slider until both boxes are the
same gray.

It should be in the configuration section of your photo editor, or
under 'display' in the control panel if you have a graphics card.

Honest, it's not rocket surgery.

Keane
--
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One of them is this, They have the power to make a wish come true...
-- Wishes
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From: Rudeney on 8 Jul 2010 11:25
On 7/8/2010 4:17 AM, Keane wrote:
> On Wed, 07 Jul 2010 16:29:58 -0500, Rudeney<rudeney(a)mickeypics.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 7/7/2010 1:27 PM, Steve Russo wrote:
>>> On Jul 7, 1:42 pm, Keane<ke...(a)keanespics.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 16:47:06 -0500, Rudeney<rude...(a)mickeypics.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> If you do a lot of home improvements, you might want to invest in a good
>>>>> paint color chart. We get them from Sherwin Williams (Home Depot can
>>>>> match their colors by number code on the computer). IIRC< they charge
>>>>> about $10 for a paint chart, but sometime,s if you ask nicely, they'll
>>>>> give them to you for free.
>>>>
>>>> Don't any of the paint companies have a program out yet that let's you
>>>> design your paint layout on the computer?
>>>>
>>>> You'll have to adjust your gamma, but that's easily enough done...
>>>>
>>> I've recently used one on Sherwin Williams site. Take some digital
>>> photos, upload them, then re-color to your heart's content. It's
>>> actually fun and helps those that are imagination-impaired (like me)
>>> actually envision the "after".
>>
>> My concern would be in calibration of all that - your camera plus your
>> monitor. With the physical color chart, you can see exactly what the
>> finished product will look like, no questions about calibration. Also,
>> Home Depot now does samples. We were repainting the living room and
>> couldn't decide on colors so I bought samples of several possibilities
>> and painted a good section of several walls. We ended up with the
>> darker choice, even though it was, on the chart, our least favorite
>> because we thought it would be too dark.
>
> Any decent photo editor (or even graphics card) has a way to adjust
> the gamma of the monitor, which will get you close to real colors and
> brightness, assuming a decent monitor. (It's under 'gamma', or
> 'adjust desktop color settings', or something similar.)
>
> Then there are widely used color profiles that let you calibrate your
> sceen and printer. I think I have about 10 of them. (I only use one
> or two.)

I've had big issues with this. I've used several different color
profile generation tools to try to get my scanner, monitor and printer
all "on the same page" and have never been able to o ti to my
satisfaction. I have a friend who is a professional photographer and
graphic artist and he spent many thousands of dollars on tools to get
his system set just right. Of course that's critical to his job, where
it's not for my hobby. And I guess like Steve said, to get an idea of
what a color might look like on your wall, it;s probably not such a big
deal, either. Still, I like doing it the old fashioned way, which is
with a color chart and few ounces of sample paint.

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From: Barry Wallis on 8 Jul 2010 22:33
On 7/8/2010 8:25 AM, Rudeney wrote:
> On 7/8/2010 4:17 AM, Keane wrote:
>> On Wed, 07 Jul 2010 16:29:58 -0500, Rudeney<rudeney(a)mickeypics.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/7/2010 1:27 PM, Steve Russo wrote:
>>>> On Jul 7, 1:42 pm, Keane<ke...(a)keanespics.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 16:47:06 -0500, Rudeney<rude...(a)mickeypics.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you do a lot of home improvements, you might want to invest in
>>>>>> a good
>>>>>> paint color chart. We get them from Sherwin Williams (Home Depot can
>>>>>> match their colors by number code on the computer). IIRC< they charge
>>>>>> about $10 for a paint chart, but sometime,s if you ask nicely,
>>>>>> they'll
>>>>>> give them to you for free.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't any of the paint companies have a program out yet that let's you
>>>>> design your paint layout on the computer?
>>>>>
>>>>> You'll have to adjust your gamma, but that's easily enough done...
>>>>>
>>>> I've recently used one on Sherwin Williams site. Take some digital
>>>> photos, upload them, then re-color to your heart's content. It's
>>>> actually fun and helps those that are imagination-impaired (like me)
>>>> actually envision the "after".
>>>
>>> My concern would be in calibration of all that - your camera plus your
>>> monitor. With the physical color chart, you can see exactly what the
>>> finished product will look like, no questions about calibration. Also,
>>> Home Depot now does samples. We were repainting the living room and
>>> couldn't decide on colors so I bought samples of several possibilities
>>> and painted a good section of several walls. We ended up with the
>>> darker choice, even though it was, on the chart, our least favorite
>>> because we thought it would be too dark.
>>
>> Any decent photo editor (or even graphics card) has a way to adjust
>> the gamma of the monitor, which will get you close to real colors and
>> brightness, assuming a decent monitor. (It's under 'gamma', or
>> 'adjust desktop color settings', or something similar.)
>>
>> Then there are widely used color profiles that let you calibrate your
>> sceen and printer. I think I have about 10 of them. (I only use one
>> or two.)
>
> I've had big issues with this. I've used several different color profile
> generation tools to try to get my scanner, monitor and printer all "on
> the same page" and have never been able to o ti to my satisfaction. I
> have a friend who is a professional photographer and graphic artist and
> he spent many thousands of dollars on tools to get his system set just
> right. Of course that's critical to his job, where it's not for my
> hobby. And I guess like Steve said, to get an idea of what a color might
> look like on your wall, it;s probably not such a big deal, either.
> Still, I like doing it the old fashioned way, which is with a color
> chart and few ounces of sample paint.

I use a Spyder2 from ColorVision (their current generation is Spyder3).
It is software and a colorimeter that sits on your screen to calibrate
what you are seeing. It automatically loads the calibration into your
graphics card each time you boot so you can always see true colors. This
assumes you are viewing a photo in the sRGB color space or with an
embedded color profile and you have a monitor capable of interpreting
color profiles (Firefox can do it).

You can find ColorVision at <http://www.colorvision.com>.

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