From: DevilsPGD on
In message <c15l13dnkq8ml95093pu5ujet0bvo052r0(a)4ax.com> BubbaGump
<BubbaGump(a)localhost> wrote:

>On Mon, 9 Apr 2007 20:26:29 +0100, "William Black"
><william.black(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Go on, live dangerously, take a risk on them loosing your baggage...
>>
>>It'll turn up soon enough and you can claim the cost of a new cake of soap
>>from the airline...
>
>The soap wouldn't be what I'd be worried about losing,

Then check the soap, carry-on whatever you'd be worried about losing...

>and I wouldn't
>be worried about losing anything permanently anyway. Is everyone on
>Usenet an unhelpful, antagonizing prick?

No, but we try...

>I'd be worried about not
>having it immediately on the other end and/or having to drive back and
>pick it up when they finally find it.

Then to be safe, you'd better not take it at all. Then you won't have
to worry about not having it immediately, you *know* you won't have it
immediately, no worrying required.

Seriously though, like I said in my first post, chances are it's not a
problem, but if you're worried, ask the TSA screeners. People get up to
the security line with all sorts of stuff, I've personally witnessed
lighters, knives, and cap-guns getting taken away. None of which are
more dangerous then the stuff you're allowed to take (I use my keys to
cut boxes all the time, yet they're allowed on the plane), but your soap
is far less dangerous then any of those.

You won't be treated like you were trying to sneak something through and
they caught you if you declare it before they find it.
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From: Mxsmanic on
BubbaGump writes:

> The soap wouldn't be what I'd be worried about losing, and I wouldn't
> be worried about losing anything permanently anyway. Is everyone on
> Usenet an unhelpful, antagonizing prick?

No, but unfortunately the medium attracts such people, so they are
disproportionately represented.

> I'd be worried about not having it immediately on the other end
> and/or having to drive back and pick it up when they finally find it.

Would it not be possible to find the same type of soap at your destination?
In any civilized city there should be nearby supermarkets or pharmacies that
sell a variety of soaps, including hypoallergenic types.

I note that many people take a great deal of sundry items along with them on
every trip, when it isn't really necessary. If you're going into the desert
or to the North Pole, it's true that you might want to bring along everything
you might possibly need; but if you are going to a large metropolitan area,
chances are that you can find soap, shampoo, bottled water, fruit juice,
make-up, or whatever you require locally without too much trouble. This even
extends to clothing: if you need a sweater, why not just buy one once you
arrive? Then you have a sweater _and_ a souvenir.

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From: Mxsmanic on
DevilsPGD writes:

> Chances are not, but if you approach them up front and say "is this
> allowed" rather then look like you're sneaking it, the worst that will
> happen is that you'll be asked to discard it.

If you give someone a chance to impose a restriction, he usually will. It's
human nature.

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From: BubbaGump on
On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 22:13:15 +0200, Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com>
wrote:

>DevilsPGD writes:
>
>> Chances are not, but if you approach them up front and say "is this
>> allowed" rather then look like you're sneaking it, the worst that will
>> happen is that you'll be asked to discard it.
>
>If you give someone a chance to impose a restriction, he usually will. It's
>human nature.

It's not human nature unless you're a right-wing conservative.
Personally, the only restriction I ever put on people is that they
leave me alone. Even when I give advice to people, I don't want them
to do what I say. I want them to explore the pros and cons on each
side and think for themselves.

Speaking of restrictions, TSA restrictions are bullshit. I think
they're mainly a placebo to make the idiots of America feel like
they're being protected by some force greater than themselves, similar
to the color-coded terror alert system and religion.

Speaking of religion, it's ironic such a Christian nation would be so
paranoid. Where's all that faith and belief in an afterlife? If
"God" is on America's side, like George Bush thinks, and "God" has so
many super great powers then where's "God" using all that omniscience
and omnipotence to keep terrorists off the planes? Besides that,
aren't Christians supposed to enjoy death through martyrdom just as
much as Muslims?

(Agnostic atheist here. I don't care for either or any religion.)

From: Bert Hyman on
In news:tv7l13h3muo591ff3936c3qr902pr6mkdh(a)4ax.com BubbaGump
<BubbaGump(a)localhost> wrote:

> On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 22:13:15 +0200, Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:

>>
>>If you give someone a chance to impose a restriction, he usually will.
>> It's human nature.
>
> It's not human nature unless you're a right-wing conservative.

Yeah; history is full of right-wing conservatives running totalitarian
regimes as in China, the ex-Soviet Union and all the Peoples States of
Asia and Africa.

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