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From: CEO Boom on 29 Jul 2010 22:39

"Keane" <keane(a)keanespics.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:03:45 -0700, "DisneyWizard the Fantasmic!"
> <wiz(a)FANTASMIC!disneywizard.com> wrote:
>
>>Pretty much everything Keane said - about being a concientious
>>videographer
>>and such - right up to the "because".
>>"Keane" <keane(a)keanespics.com> wrote in message
>>news:n2pt465k4qs1jdt8vualp9fpj1cu8c8pu3(a)4ax.com...
>
> <snip>
>>>
>>> (Be a good videographer. Turn off your LED recording indicator, never
>>> use an IR (i.e. nightvision) source, and use the viewfinder (not the
>>> preview screen) on dark rides. If you need to use external video
>>> lighting, then don't, and get a better videocam.)
>>Enjoy the attraction all you like, just don't interfere with the enjoyment
>>of other guests.
>>I have found that videotaping dark ride attractions such as Indiana JonesT
>>Adventure is acceptable with night vision infrared emitters, when you get
>>on or when you're preparing for boarding, make your request of the loading
>>cast member to please inform the tower that your infrared lamps are on,
>>and
>>then I point to the barely visible red glow and this is not interfering
>>with
>>other guests. This keeps them from saying "please turn off your camera
>>light" at every opportunity, spoiling everyone's ride.
>
> I know out semi-resident, oft absent Imagineer stated Disney was
> getting away from IR sourced 'magic' (she wasn't forthcoming on
> what they actually do :-)), I have to assume that some dark rides
> still use IR technology. So I just keep it off.

Keane

Well, if you took inventory today, you would find a large variety of new
toys in testing.
There are still a few IR installations, however - in places where it makes
sense (like the TTA).
And the new toys have some quirks that were not expected, considering that
just about every possible type of appliance and medical aid device walks
through the parks. For example, one of the detectors tested at a bag-check
station caused certain hearing aids to whine, loudly, in the owners ear.
Some of the towers have been equipped with frequency sensitive equipment
that can tell the operator that the apparent flood light coming from the
ride vehicle is actually IR and not to bother with an announcement.
There is also a nice IR camera being tested for use taking guest photos on
one of the mountains. Imagine no visible flash !!
I love new toys - maybe I should relocate to security !!

Boom (oft absent but not gone)


From: Lilith on 29 Jul 2010 22:39
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:09:55 -0500, Keane <keane(a)keanespics.com>
wrote:

>On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:07:26 -0500, Lilith <lilithpap(a)gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:35:53 -0400, "Steve Russo"
>><srusso(a)nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>>A pretty passable 2D version...
>>>
>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WaL2qTehiM&feature=related
>>
>>Question in passing.... does Disney pretty much frown on taking videos
>>of things like this?
>
>They used to. They've relaxed a lot of the rules now, since video can
>even be taken with some phones...
>
>I just listen for the magic words, "No video camera lighting". That
>usually gives me the go ahead. (As opposed to Ellen's Energy
>Adventure, where they'll sever the hand that's holding the camcorder,
>or something like that...)

I was wondering because some years ago I had a camcorder where the lcd
viewer was in a viewfinder, not in a 3" external display. On two
occasions I hadn't seen any signs forbidding videoing nor had I heard
any admonishments against it. On one of of the occasions, Time
Keeper, I was politely told I couldn't video but on the second,
Stitch, in the experimental teleport area, I was more accused than
advised of my wrong doing by a really demonstative CM. What I hated
in the second instance was having been made the center of embarassment
for an honest mistake.

ITMT, Country Bears had loads of folks taping and piccing without a
word of mention as long as it wasn't flash.

--
Lilith
From: Keane on 30 Jul 2010 06:21
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:39:57 -0400, "CEO Boom"
<thisisabadaddresssodontuseit(a)boom.com> wrote:

>
>"Keane" <keane(a)keanespics.com> wrote in message
>news:3cuv4618672saphpc8knlq4k8se46p5co4(a)4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:03:45 -0700, "DisneyWizard the Fantasmic!"
>> <wiz(a)FANTASMIC!disneywizard.com> wrote:

<snip>

>>>I have found that videotaping dark ride attractions such as Indiana JonesT
>>>Adventure is acceptable with night vision infrared emitters, when you get
>>>on or when you're preparing for boarding, make your request of the loading
>>>cast member to please inform the tower that your infrared lamps are on,
>>>and
>>>then I point to the barely visible red glow and this is not interfering
>>>with
>>>other guests. This keeps them from saying "please turn off your camera
>>>light" at every opportunity, spoiling everyone's ride.
>>
>> I know out semi-resident, oft absent Imagineer stated Disney was
>> getting away from IR sourced 'magic' (she wasn't forthcoming on
>> what they actually do :-)), I have to assume that some dark rides
>> still use IR technology. So I just keep it off.

Hiya Boom!

Of course you know I mean "Our beloved, semi-resident, oft absent
Imagineer..." ;-)

>Well, if you took inventory today, you would find a large variety of new
>toys in testing.

Hey, I'd love to take inventory down there. Let me know when I can
start.

>There are still a few IR installations, however - in places where it makes
>sense (like the TTA).
>And the new toys have some quirks that were not expected, considering that
>just about every possible type of appliance and medical aid device walks
>through the parks. For example, one of the detectors tested at a bag-check
>station caused certain hearing aids to whine, loudly, in the owners ear.

Better than stopping pacemakers. Think you can do something about
blocking cell phone signals?

(I assume poorly shielded hearing aids could pick up electrical
interference, but what in the world were you trying to detect? Was it
a metal detector of some sort? Assuming you can talk about it.
Always have to put that disclaimer in... :-))

>Some of the towers have been equipped with frequency sensitive equipment
>that can tell the operator that the apparent flood light coming from the
>ride vehicle is actually IR and not to bother with an announcement.
>There is also a nice IR camera being tested for use taking guest photos on
>one of the mountains. Imagine no visible flash !!

Color IR? How do you do that? Wide spectrum IR and shift the
frequency? Is that even possible?

>I love new toys - maybe I should relocate to security !!

Aw, don't do that. Those guys seem to be more secretive that you
guys... Hahahaha....

>Boom (oft absent but not gone)

Nice to see you post again. Hope all's well with you and yours.

Keane
--
When stars are born, They possess a gift or two,
One of them is this, They have the power to make a wish come true...
-- Wishes
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From: Lisa Cubbon on 30 Jul 2010 07:14
On 7/29/2010 10:39 PM, CEO Boom wrote:
> "Keane"<keane(a)keanespics.com> wrote in message
> news:3cuv4618672saphpc8knlq4k8se46p5co4(a)4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:03:45 -0700, "DisneyWizard the Fantasmic!"
>> <wiz(a)FANTASMIC!disneywizard.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Pretty much everything Keane said - about being a concientious
>>> videographer
>>> and such - right up to the "because".
>>> "Keane"<keane(a)keanespics.com> wrote in message
>>> news:n2pt465k4qs1jdt8vualp9fpj1cu8c8pu3(a)4ax.com...
>>
>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>> (Be a good videographer. Turn off your LED recording indicator, never
>>>> use an IR (i.e. nightvision) source, and use the viewfinder (not the
>>>> preview screen) on dark rides. If you need to use external video
>>>> lighting, then don't, and get a better videocam.)
>>> Enjoy the attraction all you like, just don't interfere with the enjoyment
>>> of other guests.
>>> I have found that videotaping dark ride attractions such as Indiana JonesT
>>> Adventure is acceptable with night vision infrared emitters, when you get
>>> on or when you're preparing for boarding, make your request of the loading
>>> cast member to please inform the tower that your infrared lamps are on,
>>> and
>>> then I point to the barely visible red glow and this is not interfering
>>> with
>>> other guests. This keeps them from saying "please turn off your camera
>>> light" at every opportunity, spoiling everyone's ride.
>>
>> I know out semi-resident, oft absent Imagineer stated Disney was
>> getting away from IR sourced 'magic' (she wasn't forthcoming on
>> what they actually do :-)), I have to assume that some dark rides
>> still use IR technology. So I just keep it off.
>
> Keane
>
> Well, if you took inventory today, you would find a large variety of new
> toys in testing.
> There are still a few IR installations, however - in places where it makes
> sense (like the TTA).
> And the new toys have some quirks that were not expected, considering that
> just about every possible type of appliance and medical aid device walks
> through the parks. For example, one of the detectors tested at a bag-check
> station caused certain hearing aids to whine, loudly, in the owners ear.
> Some of the towers have been equipped with frequency sensitive equipment
> that can tell the operator that the apparent flood light coming from the
> ride vehicle is actually IR and not to bother with an announcement.
> There is also a nice IR camera being tested for use taking guest photos on
> one of the mountains. Imagine no visible flash !!
> I love new toys - maybe I should relocate to security !!
>
> Boom (oft absent but not gone)
>
>
Thanks Boom! And thank for leaving MSEP at MK for us.

Lisa
From: Keane on 30 Jul 2010 07:25
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:39:33 -0500, Lilith <lilithpap(a)gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:09:55 -0500, Keane <keane(a)keanespics.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:07:26 -0500, Lilith <lilithpap(a)gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:35:53 -0400, "Steve Russo"
>>><srusso(a)nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>A pretty passable 2D version...
>>>>
>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WaL2qTehiM&feature=related
>>>
>>>Question in passing.... does Disney pretty much frown on taking videos
>>>of things like this?
>>
>>They used to. They've relaxed a lot of the rules now, since video can
>>even be taken with some phones...
>>
>>I just listen for the magic words, "No video camera lighting". That
>>usually gives me the go ahead. (As opposed to Ellen's Energy
>>Adventure, where they'll sever the hand that's holding the camcorder,
>>or something like that...)
>
>I was wondering because some years ago I had a camcorder where the lcd
>viewer was in a viewfinder, not in a 3" external display. On two
>occasions I hadn't seen any signs forbidding videoing nor had I heard
>any admonishments against it. On one of of the occasions, Time
>Keeper, I was politely told I couldn't video but on the second,

IIRC, they were pretty militant about not taping or photographing
Time Keeper. I'll bet there were stringent copyright (and maybe
licensing) issues with that attraction, probably one of the reasons it
went away.

>Stitch, in the experimental teleport area, I was more accused than
>advised of my wrong doing by a really demonstative CM. What I hated
>in the second instance was having been made the center of embarassment
>for an honest mistake.

I've never tried taping stitch, I think my goal was to escape the
attraction as soon as possible.

>ITMT, Country Bears had loads of folks taping and piccing without a
>word of mention as long as it wasn't flash.

There are those. The most open attraction was Behind the Seeds, where
we were invited to photograph or tape anything, on or backstage. I
have the entire tour on tape...

Keane
--
When stars are born, They possess a gift or two,
One of them is this, They have the power to make a wish come true...
-- Wishes
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