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From: Darrell Jefress on 30 Jul 2010 19:01

"Keane" <keane(a)keanespics.com> wrote in message
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> IIRC, they were pretty militant about not taping or photographing
> Time Keeper. I'll bet there were stringent copyright (and maybe
> licensing) issues with that attraction, probably one of the reasons it
> went away.
>

My guess would be that it was some sort of agreement with Robin Williams.

Interestingly, I think I *have* a video of TimeKeeper - perhaps early on, it
was not restricted.

N via D

From: Rudeney on 30 Jul 2010 22:30
On 7/29/2010 9:39 PM, CEO Boom wrote:
> "Keane"<keane(a)keanespics.com> wrote in message
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>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:03:45 -0700, "DisneyWizard the Fantasmic!"
>> <wiz(a)FANTASMIC!disneywizard.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Pretty much everything Keane said - about being a concientious
>>> videographer
>>> and such - right up to the "because".
>>> "Keane"<keane(a)keanespics.com> wrote in message
>>> news:n2pt465k4qs1jdt8vualp9fpj1cu8c8pu3(a)4ax.com...
>>
>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>> (Be a good videographer. Turn off your LED recording indicator, never
>>>> use an IR (i.e. nightvision) source, and use the viewfinder (not the
>>>> preview screen) on dark rides. If you need to use external video
>>>> lighting, then don't, and get a better videocam.)
>>> Enjoy the attraction all you like, just don't interfere with the enjoyment
>>> of other guests.
>>> I have found that videotaping dark ride attractions such as Indiana JonesT
>>> Adventure is acceptable with night vision infrared emitters, when you get
>>> on or when you're preparing for boarding, make your request of the loading
>>> cast member to please inform the tower that your infrared lamps are on,
>>> and
>>> then I point to the barely visible red glow and this is not interfering
>>> with
>>> other guests. This keeps them from saying "please turn off your camera
>>> light" at every opportunity, spoiling everyone's ride.
>>
>> I know out semi-resident, oft absent Imagineer stated Disney was
>> getting away from IR sourced 'magic' (she wasn't forthcoming on
>> what they actually do :-)), I have to assume that some dark rides
>> still use IR technology. So I just keep it off.
>
> Keane
>
> Well, if you took inventory today, you would find a large variety of new
> toys in testing.

Hey, if Keane gets to take inventory, then I want a job, too!

> There are still a few IR installations, however - in places where it makes
> sense (like the TTA).
> And the new toys have some quirks that were not expected, considering that
> just about every possible type of appliance and medical aid device walks
> through the parks. For example, one of the detectors tested at a bag-check
> station caused certain hearing aids to whine, loudly, in the owners ear.

Ah, that must have been the KFC detector, designed to check for
contraband outside meals being brought into the parks. ;-)

> Some of the towers have been equipped with frequency sensitive equipment
> that can tell the operator that the apparent flood light coming from the
> ride vehicle is actually IR and not to bother with an announcement.
> There is also a nice IR camera being tested for use taking guest photos on
> one of the mountains. Imagine no visible flash !!
> I love new toys - maybe I should relocate to security !!

Yeah, somebody's got to take up the development of new technology since
we are losing the Space Shuttle program.

> Boom (oft absent

:-(

but not gone)

:-)

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From: Keane on 2 Aug 2010 03:25
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 05:21:04 -0500, Keane <keane(a)keanespics.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:39:57 -0400, "CEO Boom"
><thisisabadaddresssodontuseit(a)boom.com> wrote:
>
>>There is also a nice IR camera being tested for use taking guest photos on
>>one of the mountains. Imagine no visible flash !!
>
>Color IR? How do you do that? Wide spectrum IR and shift the
>frequency? Is that even possible?
>

On a completely unrelated search, I found a couple of articles about
converting color IR to vis light color. It seems to be doable, but
there doesn't seem to be a clear-cut IR to visible light color
conversion.

I suppose you could put a rgb chart someplace in frame and color
match to it, but it seems to be an inexact science.

So if Disney's experimenting with such a system, it'll be interesting
if they get the color conversions correct...

Keane
--
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One of them is this, They have the power to make a wish come true...
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From: CEO Boom on 2 Aug 2010 22:37

"Keane" <keane(a)keanespics.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 05:21:04 -0500, Keane <keane(a)keanespics.com>
> wrote:
>
> On a completely unrelated search, I found a couple of articles about
> converting color IR to vis light color. It seems to be doable, but
> there doesn't seem to be a clear-cut IR to visible light color
> conversion.
>
> I suppose you could put a rgb chart someplace in frame and color
> match to it, but it seems to be an inexact science.
>
> So if Disney's experimenting with such a system, it'll be interesting
> if they get the color conversions correct...
>
> Keane
> --
> When stars are born, They possess a gift or two,
> One of them is this, They have the power to make a wish come true...
> -- Wishes
> Visit my site: http://keanespics.com

You are very close, mentioning the RGB chart except it's simpler than that.
I know I don't post a lot but if you remember I did mention that there is a
lot of R&D into computer matching that Disney (and Kodak) is doing. The
trick is that a camera takes a picture just before launch and then the wide
spectrum IR photo is color matched from that. From what I've seen it looks
very very good.

Boom


From: Rob Steere on 3 Aug 2010 02:15
"CEO Boom" <thisisabadaddresssodontuseit(a)boom.com> wrote in message
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>
> You are very close, mentioning the RGB chart except it's simpler than
> that. I know I don't post a lot but if you remember I did mention that
> there is a lot of R&D into computer matching that Disney (and Kodak) is
> doing. The trick is that a camera takes a picture just before launch and
> then the wide spectrum IR photo is color matched from that. From what I've
> seen it looks very very good.
>
> Boom
>

Now *that* is why you guys get paid the big bucks. Quite innovative. It's
almost like getting a baseline RGB chart for each individual train.

-Rob


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