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From: peter on 11 Mar 2010 02:09 On 3/11/10 2:44 AM, in article kuhgp514n3m060fcpe723qplrktviqrjke(a)4ax.com, "gmbeasley(a)mindspring.com" <gmbeasley(a)mindspring.com> wrote: >> Nice Ray, and you expect people to book with you. > > But he's right. Ray is never right. He's a spammer, rude and a fraud. > I've always known that tour guides get a cut. OP didn't ask about tour guides. > > The only really good port lectures that I've been to have been on HAL. > They had both a port lecturer AND a shopping lecturer. Same on almost all Celebrity and RCI cruises. OP asked: "I'm looking for good, clear information about the ports before we get there, and not just shoppingor tour sales info." Ray didn't address the first type of lecturers at all. > >
From: D Ball on 11 Mar 2010 10:12 > Our last cruise was on Celebrity and I had been to most of the ports > before so I didn't go to any of the lectures, but I can tell you that > the maps that they handed out were useless unless you wanted to shop > at their 'preferred' shops. There was nothing on them about any > points of interest whatsoever. Rosalie, thanks for mentioning the useless port maps. I've complained about them on comment cards for years, but random rants aren't persuasive. Maybe the next time there is a group cruise, if everyone in the group complained about the port maps, someone in corporate would take notice! It would be such an easy and inexpensive job for the line to produce a utile map. Diana
From: gmbeasley on 11 Mar 2010 11:36 On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:09:35 +0100, peter <peters25(a)stockton.com> wrote: >On 3/11/10 2:44 AM, in article kuhgp514n3m060fcpe723qplrktviqrjke(a)4ax.com, >"gmbeasley(a)mindspring.com" <gmbeasley(a)mindspring.com> wrote: > >>> Nice Ray, and you expect people to book with you. >> >> But he's right. >Ray is never right. He's a spammer, rude and a fraud. > Even a stopped clock is right twice a day, and I suppose that goes for you too. >> I've always known that tour guides get a cut. > >OP didn't ask about tour guides. > But the tour guides for the excursions get a cut too, and the ship gets a cut for the shop being listed as "approved". It's endemic in the tourist industry. >> >> The only really good port lectures that I've been to have been on HAL. >> They had both a port lecturer AND a shopping lecturer. > >Same on almost all Celebrity and RCI cruises. OP asked: "I'm looking for >good, clear information about the ports before we get there, and not just >shoppingor tour sales info." Ray didn't address the first type of lecturers >at all. The reason that the lectures concentrate on shopping is because the ship gets a cut. The only lines that I've been on that had actual PORT information are HAL and NCL. The lack of map information on Celebrity was QUITE annoying and leads me to believe that the port lectures would also be deficient. I took an island tour of St. Croix but Celebrity told me no information about the places that we would stop on the tour so I did not know that there was a National Park on the tour. I know about the one on St. John, but didn't know about St. Croix. I asked the future cruises person about it and she said it was because of liability. Absolute balderdash. How can there be liability for noting the location of a museum or church or the central square? When we went to make out our comment cards (on Celebrity) we were told that we could only have one per cabin, but Bob and I don't agree on everything so he went an got another one so he could fill out his own. When they called us up to ask if we had any other comments, I gave them another complaint about the port maps. I am unhappy to read that Diana Ball has been complaining about this for years. It would seem such a simple thing to fix.
From: peter on 11 Mar 2010 12:18 X-No-archive: yes On 3/11/10 5:36 PM, in article 8b6ip5p47cib6l9j370ka3rvpl44t573le(a)4ax.com, "gmbeasley(a)mindspring.com" <gmbeasley(a)mindspring.com> wrote: >>> >>> The only really good port lectures that I've been to have been on HAL. >>> They had both a port lecturer AND a shopping lecturer. >> >> Same on almost all Celebrity and RCI cruises. OP asked: "I'm looking for >> good, clear information about the ports before we get there, and not just >> shoppingor tour sales info." Ray didn't address the first type of lecturers >> at all. > > The reason that the lectures concentrate on shopping In general they don't. Maybe they do on Caribbean cruises to islands where all you can do is shop. On other cruises there are "enrichment lectures" by (former) college professors. Typically, they talk about shopping for less than 30 seconds. They do talk about ports, people, history, customs, language, culture. You probably don't want to be enriched in any otherway than monetary. > > The lack of map information on Celebrity was QUITE annoying and leads > me to believe that the port lectures would also be deficient. Great logic. > I took > an island tour of St. Croix but Celebrity told me no information about > the places that we would stop on the tour so I did not know that there > was a National Park on the tour. Read the excursion description. > I know about the one on St. John, > but didn't know about St. Croix. I asked the future cruises person > about it You should have asked the excursion desk. > >Bob and I don't agree on > everything I really feel sorry for Bob. > I am unhappy to read that > Diana Ball has been complaining about this for years. It would seem > such a simple thing to fix. They're free. It's like complaining about the Yellow Pages carrying advertising. > > >
From: D Ball on 11 Mar 2010 12:34
> They're free. It's like complaining about the Yellow Pages carrying > advertising. They're not free, they are included. Diana |