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From: Bill Steltzer on 24 Apr 2007 20:20
On Apr 23, 7:47 pm, Troy Piggins <usenet-0...(a)piggo.com> wrote:
> Travelling to Europe in September/October this year with my
> girlfriend. We are planning to train from Dijon to Venice via
> Switzerland. I was thinking Geneva is recommended a lot. My
> girlfriend has a preference for seeing the mountains -
> particularly the Matterhorn and had heard Zermatt is nearby.
>
> We don't have a lot of time. 2 nights only - so travel there
> from Dijon one day, stay that night, sightseeing next day, stay
> that night, then off to Venice next day.
>
> Couple of questions.
>
> - Are the peaks all visible that time of year? Is weather
> usually good, bad etc?
> - What would be your recommendation of town/city to stay?
> (Zermatt?)
> - Travel times (roughly) from above town to mountain viewing?
> - Any other recommendations given our tight time constraints?
>
> --
> Troy Piggins |http://piggo.com/~troy

Seeing the Matterhorn is always chancy. I've been to Zermatt twice.
Two nights the first visit and we never saw the Matterhorn or any of
the other mountains. We were clouded in. Second visit - just a day
trip - and there wasn't a cloud in the sky - a brilliant mountain top
to look at.

From: justforpostings on 26 Apr 2007 02:02
On 25 Apr., 02:20, Bill Steltzer <stelt...(a)aol.com> wrote:
< On Apr 23, 7:47 pm, Troy Piggins <usenet-0...(a)piggo.com> wrote:
<
< > Travelling to Europe in September/October this year with my
< > girlfriend. We are planning to train from Dijon to Venice via
< > Switzerland. I was thinking Geneva is recommended a lot. My
< > girlfriend has a preference for seeing the mountains -
< > particularly the Matterhorn and had heard Zermatt is nearby.
<
< > We don't have a lot of time. 2 nights only - so travel there
< > from Dijon one day, stay that night, sightseeing next day, stay
< > that night, then off to Venice next day.
<
< > Couple of questions.
<
< > - Are the peaks all visible that time of year? Is weather
< > usually good, bad etc?
< > - What would be your recommendation of town/city to stay?
< > (Zermatt?)
< > - Travel times (roughly) from above town to mountain viewing?
< > - Any other recommendations given our tight time constraints?
<
< > --
< > Troy Piggins |http://piggo.com/~troy
<
< Seeing the Matterhorn is always chancy. I've been to Zermatt twice.
< Two nights the first visit and we never saw the Matterhorn or any of
< the other mountains. We were clouded in. Second visit - just a day
< trip - and there wasn't a cloud in the sky - a brilliant mountain
top
< to look at.

Weather can always be a problem in the Alps,
thats why imho especially short vacation in
that area should leave room for last moment
adjustments. Basically, NW part of the
Alps range gets most precipitation; SE more
sunshine

As already mentionned in an other posting:
Mattertal (Zermatt valley) is well sheltered from
main NW weather fronts by the Bernese Alps,
W by several mountain ranges. "Bad weather"
comes from S/SW - not frequent, and usually
for a a few days only (when weather fronts
reaching Matterhorn from SW move ESE,
winds usually turn W, than NW)

To my experience, Matterhorn is hidden
by clouds, fog or snow seldom for more
than 2-3 days in a row .... but on my last
vacation week in Zermatt, we could see
the Matterhorn only on 3 days: Saturday
when arriving, Tuesday and again on
Saturday when leaving .....

Thats why I like the link
http://bergbahnen.zermatt.ch/d/web-cam/archiv/zermatt4.html
- daily webcam pics for a year ....

Have fun

From: Troy Piggins on 26 Apr 2007 03:08
* justforpostings(a)iprolink.ch is quoted & my replies are inline
* below :
> On 25 Apr., 02:20, Bill Steltzer <stelt...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> < On Apr 23, 7:47 pm, Troy Piggins <usenet-0...(a)piggo.com> wrote:
> <
> < > Travelling to Europe in September/October this year with my
> < > girlfriend. We are planning to train from Dijon to Venice via
> < > Switzerland. I was thinking Geneva is recommended a lot. My
> < > girlfriend has a preference for seeing the mountains -
> < > particularly the Matterhorn and had heard Zermatt is nearby.
> <
> < > We don't have a lot of time. 2 nights only - so travel there
[snip]
> < Seeing the Matterhorn is always chancy. I've been to Zermatt twice.
> < Two nights the first visit and we never saw the Matterhorn or any of
> < the other mountains. We were clouded in. Second visit - just a day
> < trip - and there wasn't a cloud in the sky - a brilliant mountain
> top
> < to look at.
>
> Weather can always be a problem in the Alps,
> thats why imho especially short vacation in
> that area should leave room for last moment
> adjustments. Basically, NW part of the
> Alps range gets most precipitation; SE more
> sunshine
>
> As already mentionned in an other posting:
> Mattertal (Zermatt valley) is well sheltered from
> main NW weather fronts by the Bernese Alps,
> W by several mountain ranges. "Bad weather"
> comes from S/SW - not frequent, and usually
> for a a few days only (when weather fronts
> reaching Matterhorn from SW move ESE,
> winds usually turn W, than NW)
>
> To my experience, Matterhorn is hidden
> by clouds, fog or snow seldom for more
> than 2-3 days in a row .... but on my last
> vacation week in Zermatt, we could see
> the Matterhorn only on 3 days: Saturday
> when arriving, Tuesday and again on
> Saturday when leaving .....
>
> Thats why I like the link
> http://bergbahnen.zermatt.ch/d/web-cam/archiv/zermatt4.html
> - daily webcam pics for a year ....

Thanks for your advice and thoughts.

--
Troy Piggins | http://piggo.com/~troy
From: mr lim on 26 Apr 2007 08:18
On 26 Apr, 07:02, justforposti...(a)iprolink.ch wrote:
> On 25 Apr., 02:20, Bill Steltzer <stelt...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> < On Apr 23, 7:47 pm, Troy Piggins <usenet-0...(a)piggo.com> wrote:
> <
> < > Travelling to Europe in September/October this year with my
> < > girlfriend. We are planning to train from Dijon to Venice via
> < > Switzerland. I was thinking Geneva is recommended a lot. My
> < > girlfriend has a preference for seeing the mountains -
> < > particularly the Matterhorn and had heard Zermatt is nearby.
> <
> < > We don't have a lot of time. 2 nights only - so travel there
> < > from Dijon one day, stay that night, sightseeing next day, stay
> < > that night, then off to Venice next day.
> <
> < > Couple of questions.
> <
> < > - Are the peaks all visible that time of year? Is weather
> < > usually good, bad etc?
> < > - What would be your recommendation of town/city to stay?
> < > (Zermatt?)
> < > - Travel times (roughly) from above town to mountain viewing?
> < > - Any other recommendations given our tight time constraints?
> <
> < > --
> < > Troy Piggins |http://piggo.com/~troy
> <
> < Seeing the Matterhorn is always chancy. I've been to Zermatt twice.
> < Two nights the first visit and we never saw the Matterhorn or any of
> < the other mountains. We were clouded in. Second visit - just a day
> < trip - and there wasn't a cloud in the sky - a brilliant mountain
> top
> < to look at.
>
> Weather can always be a problem in the Alps,
> thats why imho especially short vacation in
> that area should leave room for last moment
> adjustments. Basically, NW part of the
> Alps range gets most precipitation; SE more
> sunshine
>
> As already mentionned in an other posting:
> Mattertal (Zermatt valley) is well sheltered from
> main NW weather fronts by the Bernese Alps,
> W by several mountain ranges. "Bad weather"
> comes from S/SW - not frequent, and usually
> for a a few days only (when weather fronts
> reaching Matterhorn from SW move ESE,
> winds usually turn W, than NW)
>
> To my experience, Matterhorn is hidden
> by clouds, fog or snow seldom for more
> than 2-3 days in a row .... but on my last
> vacation week in Zermatt, we could see
> the Matterhorn only on 3 days: Saturday
> when arriving, Tuesday and again on
> Saturday when leaving .....
>

Brig is the place to stay ( you can go 5 different directions from
there ) its also a real town ,not just tourist, a day trip to zermat
would suffice , and the gornagrat railway from Zermat would give the
very best views on a good day , althernativly the cable cars out of
zermatt where you actually get closer .
Both are expensive so if the weather closes in its probably not worth
it, if the weather its very good then it is awesome

From: Troy Piggins on 26 Apr 2007 16:40
* mr lim is quoted & my replies are inline below :
> On 26 Apr, 07:02, justforposti...(a)iprolink.ch wrote:
>> On 25 Apr., 02:20, Bill Steltzer <stelt...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>> < On Apr 23, 7:47 pm, Troy Piggins <usenet-0...(a)piggo.com> wrote:
>> <
>> < > Travelling to Europe in September/October this year with my
>> < > girlfriend. We are planning to train from Dijon to Venice via
>> < > Switzerland. I was thinking Geneva is recommended a lot. My
>> < > girlfriend has a preference for seeing the mountains -
>> < > particularly the Matterhorn and had heard Zermatt is nearby.
>> <
>> < > We don't have a lot of time. 2 nights only - so travel there
>> < > from Dijon one day, stay that night, sightseeing next day, stay
>> < > that night, then off to Venice next day.
>> <
>> < > Couple of questions.
>> <
>> < > - Are the peaks all visible that time of year? Is weather
>> < > usually good, bad etc?
>> < > - What would be your recommendation of town/city to stay?
>> < > (Zermatt?)
>> < > - Travel times (roughly) from above town to mountain viewing?
>> < > - Any other recommendations given our tight time constraints?
[snip]

> Brig is the place to stay ( you can go 5 different directions from
> there ) its also a real town ,not just tourist, a day trip to zermat
> would suffice , and the gornagrat railway from Zermat would give the
> very best views on a good day , althernativly the cable cars out of
> zermatt where you actually get closer .
> Both are expensive so if the weather closes in its probably not worth
> it, if the weather its very good then it is awesome

Aah. Good advice. Thanks.

--
Troy Piggins | http://piggo.com/~troy
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