From: Peppermint Patty on
Gardenias are tough plants to grow. I don't think they would survive
up here at least not outside. I can't even keep one alive inside!!!!
From: Rudeney on
Peppermint Patty wrote:
> Gardenias are tough plants to grow. I don't think they would survive
> up here at least not outside. I can't even keep one alive inside!!!!

Really? We have tons of them down here and they survive just fine. I
know it doesn't get as cold here, but we do have days where temps never
go above freezing and even some hard freezes don to the teens and
single-digits. Generally, if a plant can survive sub-freezing temps for
more than 24 hours, it's good as long as it gets enough water and light
in the growing season.

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From: Caren on
On Jun 30, 10:31 am, Rudeney <rude...(a)mickeypics.com> wrote:
> Peppermint Patty wrote:
> > Gardenias are tough plants to grow.  I don't think they would survive
> > up here at least not outside.  I can't even keep one alive inside!!!!
>
> Really?  We have tons of them down here and they survive just fine.  I
> know it doesn't get as cold here, but we do have days where temps never
> go above freezing and even some hard freezes don to the teens and
> single-digits.  Generally, if a plant can survive sub-freezing temps for
> more than 24 hours, it's good as long as it gets enough water and light
> in the growing season.
>

We have weeks where the temperature never gets above freezing and days
where it barely budges above 0°. There's a vast difference between the
light frosts of southern winters and what we get up north--you should
know what zone you're in and buy plants suited to it. Even paying
attention, we regularly lose supposedly hardy plants such as sage.

Check into the hardy hibiscus--looks very tropical and is good to zone
4 or 5.

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From: Ginny Favers on
On 6/29/2010 9:30 PM, Meerkat1 wrote:
> In article<i06b8t$jq5$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> Ginny Favers<ginnyfavers(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have a challenge for you!
>>
>> We are going to paint our house and outbuildings in the color scheme
>> used at Alligator Bayou, and I want to do some landscaping to go with it.
>>
>> Can you guys name all the plants you see in Port Orleans' landscaping?
>> Magnolia trees are what I remember the most.
>>
>> What else?
>>
>> I have to start trying to figure out what would be hardy up here for our
>> freezing winters. There actually is a big, thriving magnolia tree
>> around the corner from us, so I know that can be done!
>
> Are you going to name your house? I call my rental the 'Tiki House'
> based on our decorating scheme.
>

It's a hodgepodge inside. A combination of everything we love - all our
favorite resorts. Mickeyola?

~Amanda
From: Ginny Favers on
On 6/30/2010 8:43 AM, Peppermint Patty wrote:
> Gardenias are tough plants to grow. I don't think they would survive
> up here at least not outside. I can't even keep one alive inside!!!!

Nix on the gardenias. But I have found the following things that seem
appropriate and are supposedly hardy outdoors here:

Dwarf palmetto
Natchez crepe myrtle
Bracken's Brown Beauty magnolia
Loblolly pine
Hardy jasmine
Encore azalea
Arctic Queen clematis
Choctaw blackberry

The magnolia is a patented cultivar that's only available from a few
places, but we found a nursery in central Jersey we can go pick one up
in our cargo van when we get the money together.

The Encore brand azaleas are available at Lowe's and all the big box
retailers.

The rest and probably lots more I found at http://www.tytyga.com. What
an amazing nursery! Super website. A little strange -- you'll have to
go look and see for yourself -- Bible videos about plants and half naked
young adults photoshopped next to plants -- but great plants, copious
information and easy navigation.

Estimated price tag, doing all the work ourselves, is around $600 so far.

~Amanda
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