From: Ginny Favers on
On 6/30/2010 11:03 AM, Caren wrote:
> On Jun 30, 10:31 am, Rudeney<rude...(a)mickeypics.com> wrote:
>> Peppermint Patty wrote:
>>> Gardenias are tough plants to grow. I don't think they would survive
>>> up here at least not outside. I can't even keep one alive inside!!!!
>>
>> Really? We have tons of them down here and they survive just fine. I
>> know it doesn't get as cold here, but we do have days where temps never
>> go above freezing and even some hard freezes don to the teens and
>> single-digits. Generally, if a plant can survive sub-freezing temps for
>> more than 24 hours, it's good as long as it gets enough water and light
>> in the growing season.
>>
>
> We have weeks where the temperature never gets above freezing and days
> where it barely budges above 0�. There's a vast difference between the
> light frosts of southern winters and what we get up north--you should
> know what zone you're in and buy plants suited to it. Even paying
> attention, we regularly lose supposedly hardy plants such as sage.
>
> Check into the hardy hibiscus--looks very tropical and is good to zone
> 4 or 5.
>
> --
> Caren
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Wasn't sure if that could stay outdoors in the winter. Thanks for the
tip! Going on the list.

~Amanda
From: Peppermint Patty on
Azalea and clematis are good choices. Get clematis that is an
established plant if you know what I mean. I bought a little sprig
and it never made it. I think if I could have gotten one that was
already growing with extra shoots, etc., it would have been okay.
Azaleas are gorgeous. Rhododendrons are also great and very
colorful.
From: Rudeney on
Caren wrote:
> On Jun 30, 10:31 am, Rudeney <rude...(a)mickeypics.com> wrote:
>> Peppermint Patty wrote:
>>> Gardenias are tough plants to grow. I don't think they would survive
>>> up here at least not outside. I can't even keep one alive inside!!!!
>> Really? We have tons of them down here and they survive just fine. I
>> know it doesn't get as cold here, but we do have days where temps never
>> go above freezing and even some hard freezes don to the teens and
>> single-digits. Generally, if a plant can survive sub-freezing temps for
>> more than 24 hours, it's good as long as it gets enough water and light
>> in the growing season.
>>
>
> We have weeks where the temperature never gets above freezing and days
> where it barely budges above 0�. There's a vast difference between the
> light frosts of southern winters and what we get up north--you should
> know what zone you're in and buy plants suited to it. Even paying
> attention, we regularly lose supposedly hardy plants such as sage.

Oh, I know that we do not get the harsh winters like you guys up north,
but we do get hard freezes. we regularly have a stretch of at least
three days where the temps never go above freezing, and this past winter
we had a nine-day stretch below freezing with lows int he low teens
and single digits. That happens about once every four or five years.
Now, I'm not plant expert, but my understanding is that if a plant can
survive a week below freezing, it's good for pretty much all but the
harshest arctic winters.

>
> Check into the hardy hibiscus--looks very tropical and is good to zone
> 4 or 5.

We must have the non-hardy type because all of our hibiscus plants die
if not brought in whenever it goes below freezing. I've done this in
the past, but now we just buy new ones every year.

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From: Rudeney on
Ginny Favers wrote:
> On 6/30/2010 8:43 AM, Peppermint Patty wrote:
>> Gardenias are tough plants to grow. I don't think they would survive
>> up here at least not outside. I can't even keep one alive inside!!!!
>
> Nix on the gardenias. But I have found the following things that seem
> appropriate and are supposedly hardy outdoors here:
>
> Dwarf palmetto
> Natchez crepe myrtle
> Bracken's Brown Beauty magnolia
> Loblolly pine
> Hardy jasmine
> Encore azalea
> Arctic Queen clematis
> Choctaw blackberry
>
> The magnolia is a patented cultivar that's only available from a few
> places, but we found a nursery in central Jersey we can go pick one up
> in our cargo van when we get the money together.
>
> The Encore brand azaleas are available at Lowe's and all the big box
> retailers.

We have several Encore Azaleas and love them. They bloom several times
during the summer (hence "encore") and are very hardy. I have one that
doesn't flourish quite as much and I think because it doesn't get enough
sun. Or, it gets all its water sucked away because it's planted near
the roots of a Bradford pear tree.

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