From: Dave Frightens Me on
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:26:42 -0700, Hatunen <hatunen(a)cox.net> wrote:

>On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:57:12 +0200, Dave Frightens Me
><deepfreudmoors(a)eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
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>>On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 09:35:54 +0100, The Reid
>><dontuse(a)fell-walker.co.uk> wrote:
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>>>Following up to Hatunen
>>>
>>>>>Ah, back to the "if you're educated and successful you're not part of
>>>>>the culture".
>>>>
>>>>You ar e a twit, aren't you. That's not what I said. There are
>>>>many educated people in Kansas and Iowa.
>>>
>>>why are you all bothering? The mans clearly either a troll or a
>>>total idiot. He's told that mostly only educated people speak
>>>English as a second language, He then accuses you of saying
>>>educated people are not part of the culture. He does this sort of
>>>thing all the time. You can not make progress arguing with
>>>someone who does not apply logic and honesty.
>>
>>I'll plonk him if you guys do!
>
>Done yesterday.

I'm amazed I'm not there too!
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From: Dave Frightens Me on
On 18 Aug 2006 08:23:05 -0700, "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>Dave Frightens Me wrote:
>> On 17 Aug 2006 18:49:47 -0700, "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> >Bias by definition. No where in that article did anyone post any actual
>> >government figures as you claimed they did.
>>
>> All you are saying is that the BBC and the attorney would have to be
>> biased.
>
>No, I'm saying that the BBC has been proven to be biased on this issue
>and that the lawyer is paid to be biased.
>
>> I am waiting for you to demonstrate what that bias is in this case.
>
>???? What more do you need? Both the BBC and the lawyer have a specific
>bias to oppose the war and the incarceration of the prisoners of war.
>And all the article did is to quote biased sources. Thus the bias is
>demonstrated.
>
>And since you are the one supporting their claim then the burden of
>proof is on you to justify that support.
>
>Go ahead.
>
>And, again, you claimed that the figures came from government sources
>yet that is proven to be untrue. So quote the government sources.
>
>Go ahead.

Would there be a point? You refuse to believe anything except the
party line.

>> >> You said:
>> >> "As it always is with prisoners of war. The fact that they were
>> >> captured on a battleground is all that it takes."
>> >
>> >I have read that sentence 3 more times, played it backwards, rearranged
>> >the letters, translated it into about 47 languages. Can't find anywhere
>> >where I said anyone was *guilty* of anything.
>>
>> Oh, so you still stand by this statement, even after it has been
>> demonstrated wrong?
>
>Demonstrated wrong when? From the biased article that made a claim?
>That's not demonstrating that it's wrong.
>
>So tell me where it was demonstrated wrong.
>
>Go ahead.

Most of those collected were not necessarily Taliban, but anyone they
could have found. Sadly, no one is willing to allow them to defend
themselves.

>> >> A shooting war? What war are you talking about?
>> >
>> >????? 9/11? Madrid? London? Any of this ring a bell?
>>
>> Yeah, none involved shooting IIRC.
>
>A "shooting war" is a term to refer to a hot war where people are
>actually being killed as opposed to a cold war.
>
>Hello.

Never heard of it, and neither has dictionary.com or wiki.

>> >> I don't condone that,
>> >
>> >Actually you just did.
>> >
>> >When you (or anyone) uses a sentence that starts something like "I
>> >oppose terrorism" there is one and only one proper way to punctuate it.
>> >That is with a period, dot, full stop ".". As in "I oppose terrorism."
>> >But if you punctuate it with "but...." then you are actually condoning
>> >it.
>>
>> What rubbish. You are merely saying that if I question the modes of
>> dealing with it, I condone the terrorists.
>
>No. I'm saying that if you support the reasons for the terrorism then
>you are condoning the terrorists.

Those 'reasons' would be anything you wanted I guess.

>> >> The war on terrorism is over, in case you hadn't noticed.
>> >
>> >????? So the BBC lied when they reported the interrupted plan to bomb
>> >the airliners last week?
>>
>> It's been renamed "The Long War" now.
>
>Gee, what a cute little trick. I guess when you have no logical
>argument that's what you have to resort to.

Much like you using 'shooting war' then, as if it's a widely used
term.
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From: Padraig Breathnach on
Dave Frightens Me <deepfreudmoors(a)eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:

>On 18 Aug 2006 08:23:05 -0700, "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>Go ahead.
>
>Would there be a point?

You know it's pointless. Why are you continuing?

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From: mrtravel on
Hatunen wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:29:14 GMT, mrtravel
> <mrtravel(a)bcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Hatunen wrote:
>>
>>
>>>The question is, is a passport required to do the traveling? In
>>>the case of the 200 year old Randall document, I suspect not. The
>>>Randall document isnot a passport in the modern sense of that
>>>word. I also note that the document is issued by the US consul at
>>>Malta requesting the courtesy of the island for Mr Randall, who
>>>seems to have already arrived there.
>>>
>>
>>Do a bit of research on passports and then get back to us.
>>Passports are NOT something newly created in the 20th century.
>
>
> In my original post I admit I misspoke: I meant not that
> passports came into being after WW1 but that the requirement for
> passports in Europe came into being after WW1.

There were standardizations of passports after WW1, that is correct.
However, the purpose of the passports were still similar.
From: Dave Frightens Me on
On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 00:01:50 +0100, Padraig Breathnach
<padraigb(a)MUNGEDiol.ie> wrote:

>Dave Frightens Me <deepfreudmoors(a)eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>
>>On 18 Aug 2006 08:23:05 -0700, "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Go ahead.
>>
>>Would there be a point?
>
>You know it's pointless. Why are you continuing?

Apparently I am being rather silly!
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