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From: Foxieohe on 17 Jul 2010 20:54
An article in the July 13 2010 Wall ST Journal says Fenway Park in
Boston is a model for all Baseball stadiums because it is a great
stadium built without a dime of tax money. However a Red Sox season
ticket holeder has a letter in today's Wall ST Journal that says he
can attest to many seasons of highest average ticket prices parking
and consesions in all of MLB. He says " lets not delude ourselfs that
the seating comfort level is anything other than circa 1912, replete
with tiny seats with no leg room, obstructed views and sightline
misadventures". In other words attending a game at Fenway is like
eating at Circus Circus buffet and flying Southwest. If Atlanta had
Fenway park in 1996 they would not have got the olympics. Fortunatly
the World Series opens this year at a state of the art stadium on Hank
Arron drive in Atlanta.BTW Denny,what section of Fenway were you
seated in when it opened in 1912? Foxie Emerson
From: fxd99 on 17 Jul 2010 21:25
Foxieohe wrote:
> An article in the July 13 2010 Wall ST Journal says Fenway Park in
> Boston is a model for all Baseball stadiums because it is a great
> stadium built without a dime of tax money. However a Red Sox season
> ticket holeder has a letter in today's Wall ST Journal that says he
> can attest to many seasons of highest average ticket prices parking
> and consesions in all of MLB. He says " lets not delude ourselfs that
> the seating comfort level is anything other than circa 1912, replete
> with tiny seats with no leg room, obstructed views and sightline
> misadventures". In other words attending a game at Fenway is like
> eating at Circus Circus buffet and flying Southwest. If Atlanta had
> Fenway park in 1996 they would not have got the olympics. Fortunatly
> the World Series opens this year at a state of the art stadium on Hank
> Arron drive in Atlanta.BTW Denny,what section of Fenway were you
> seated in when it opened in 1912? Foxie Emerson
Fenway is a dump. An interesting tidbit though, it opened the same week
that the Titanic went down.
Denny in Mass
From: Walt on 17 Jul 2010 22:16
In article <i1tl5g$geb$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, fxd99(a)NOSPAMverizon.net
wrote:

> Fenway is a dump. An interesting tidbit though, it opened the same week
> that the Titanic went down.
> Denny in Mass

I used to like those old dumps when I went on baseball trips. Some of their
quirks were quite charming. At Fenway the left-field seats in foul territory
are pretty nice because they face the infield. Whereas the equivalent seats
in rightfield are horrible because they face out toward centerfield and the
person on your left blocks your view of home plate. And some of those
bleachers are practically in another time zone. Nowadays the ticket prices
are insane, of course -- their website shows 20 different price levels from
$12 to $328.

Old Comiskey had a really friendly atmosphere. (I mean inside the ballpark --
outside was/is a war zone; I remember reading that the new ballpark across the
street installed bulletproof glass in the ticket windows.) The concession
areas were even more cramped than Fenway's, but people still seemed to get
where they qwanted to go. Organist Nancy Faust used to sit right outside in
the upper-deck with her keyboard; in the new ballpark, she was isolated inside
a concrete bunker behind home plate.

Old Tiger Stadium had that 440-ft centerfield fence and those overhanging
outfield upper-decks.

Wrigley Field is one of the last holdouts, a park with a minor-league feel
plopped down in an urban neighborhood.

The old scoreboards were all unique, too, not like nowadays where they're all
putting up the same bland video screens.

Oh, and I bet Boyd Gaming is kicking itself for tearing down the Stardust.

--- Walt
From: - Bobb - on 18 Jul 2010 08:52
I an from Boston and read that story.
The point of the story was that the current owners know how to run a
business. They took a 90+ yr old business and squeezed a lot of money out of
the park ( and here's the main point of the story) without ANY taxpayer
money. I've sat in the fold-down wooden seats and you're right, they are not
padded leather with built-in speakers etc. BUT they have kept the general
admission ticket prices down and are able to pay the salaries of the talent.
Granted it's $10 for a beer and a hot dog and $50-$100 to park at a nearby
gas station, BUT if you live in the city, you CAN take the trolley and GET
into the game without spending that cash. There is so much demand for season
tickets, fancy box seats that those prices subsidize the GA ticket price.
Maybe that's part of the strategy: we'll have bare bones seats and a lot of
business won't want that, so they'll pay to upgrade...

the story:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703426004575338773305482494.html
excerpt::
'So far, the Red Sox have spent "north of two hundred million" on the
renovations, Mr. Lucchino said. ... So the next time a sports franchise
goes begging for taxpayer funding for a new stadium, politicians should have
the guts to tell them: "Pay for it yourself." The Red Sox did, and increased
their revenue and market value along the way. '

the letter to the editor
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704518904575365022711960784.html
Excerpt: "As a longtime season ticket holder, I can personally attest that
for many seasons the Sox have sported among the highest average ticket,
parking and amenity prices in all of Major League Baseball."

That might be true but again the point of the story is: all of the
renovation was done without a dollar from the taxpayer. The letter writer is
absolutely correct that it is very expensive for the high-end attendee, but
the attendee has a choice: he can say - "No, I won't go - it's too
expensive."

In other markets the taxpayer picks up the tab for the clubowner under
"threat of moving". AND if those clubowners can get away with it I don't
blame them either: but I DO think it's wrong.


"Foxieohe" <Vegasdawg51s(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:0f751968-b63e-43ee-a599-337062202592(a)w30g2000yqw.googlegroups.com...
> An article in the July 13 2010 Wall ST Journal says Fenway Park in
> Boston is a model for all Baseball stadiums because it is a great
> stadium built without a dime of tax money. However a Red Sox season
> ticket holeder has a letter in today's Wall ST Journal that says he
> can attest to many seasons of highest average ticket prices parking
> and consesions in all of MLB. He says " lets not delude ourselfs that
> the seating comfort level is anything other than circa 1912, replete
> with tiny seats with no leg room, obstructed views and sightline
> misadventures". In other words attending a game at Fenway is like
> eating at Circus Circus buffet and flying Southwest. If Atlanta had
> Fenway park in 1996 they would not have got the olympics. Fortunatly
> the World Series opens this year at a state of the art stadium on Hank
> Arron drive in Atlanta.BTW Denny,what section of Fenway were you
> seated in when it opened in 1912? Foxie Emerson


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