If You Think Your RFID Passport Is Secure, Think Again
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From: William Black on 12 Dec 2009 09:38 Mxsmanic wrote: > William Black writes: > >> Any evidence that anyone has done this yet? > > Nobody has shot down a civilian airliner with a missile in the U.S. yet, but > that doesn't mean that the risk isn't credible or significant. > >> I don't mean someone has done something clever in a lab, I mean a >> criminal stealing an identity via a passport at an airport. > > Criminals don't usually announce the sources of the identities they steal. So that's a 'no' then. Glad to see you're still bonkers Mitzi... -- William Black "Any number under six" The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat single handed with a quarterstaff.
From: Brian on 12 Dec 2009 23:56 On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 09:00:13 +0100, Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote: >William Black writes: > >> Any evidence that anyone has done this yet? > >Nobody has shot down a civilian airliner with a missile in the U.S. yet, but >that doesn't mean that the risk isn't credible or significant. There have been attempts to buy the technology to do that. > >> I don't mean someone has done something clever in a lab, I mean a >> criminal stealing an identity via a passport at an airport. > >Criminals don't usually announce the sources of the identities they steal.
From: Brian on 13 Dec 2009 00:03 On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:11:20 -0000, "tim...." <tims_new_home(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >There are no security systems in place that rely upon someone having a >document with a photo in it, where the photo is of somebody other than the >person holding the document > >tim You're assuming that there are no resemblances between people, that all the pictures are always scrutinized and that people don't change at all. I've lost almost 100 lbs. since my id pictures were taken and have never had a problem being challenged. I do look like a thinner version of how I looked before but not everyone does. Men grow beards or shave them; hair is dyed, etc.
From: tim.... on 13 Dec 2009 04:37 "Mxsmanic" <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:bma7i591ioh5kq1nnfambc4r6glbac4um2(a)4ax.com... > tim.... writes: > >> I don't deny this, but my point is you can already obtain this >> information >> without having to risk snooping at airports > > You can't get pictures or Social Security numbers associated with names. You can't get a social security number from a passport either (on the very simple basis that 90% of the world doesn't have them) I've already made my point about pictures tim
From: tim.... on 13 Dec 2009 04:41
"Mxsmanic" <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:vka7i5duc3ghe2314bt92it4egemu3krub(a)4ax.com... > tim.... writes: > >> and so is every person in the phone book. > > Phone books don't provide as much information as passports. Having already established that (in your jurisdiction, not in mine) there is a searchable database to obtain the rest, then what is available in the directory is enough to fill in the gaps. As I've already said, what is available in the passport is insufficient on its own so you have to search this database anyway. Thus starting at the directory is equivalent to starting with the passport info. tim |