Jews Strive To Restore Christmas Trees At Seattle Airport
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From: flaviaR on 2 Jan 2007 03:58 On 27-Dec-2006, Banty <Banty_member(a)newsguy.com> wrote: > I guess those New Orleans Catholics should kindly keep their "Mardi Gras" > festival quietly in their homes. For shame - using public streets. The odd thing is that the strict Catholics doubtless do... Susan
From: flaviaR on 2 Jan 2007 04:05 On 23-Dec-2006, "Sancho Panza" <otterpower(a)xhotmail.com> wrote: > > A creche and a menorah are religious symbols. An Xmas tree is not. > > One person's opinon. Nothing more. Certainly not the government's opinion - as if they should have one at all! But that's another story.... Susan
From: James A. Donald on 2 Jan 2007 23:22 "Sancho Panza" > > > A creche and a menorah are religious symbols. An > > > Xmas tree is not. > > One person's opinon. Nothing more. flaviaR(a)verizon.net > Certainly not the government's opinion The court's opinion, expressed in case after case, cases I have repeatedly cited, is that a creche and a menorah are religious symbols and a Xmas tree is not. -- ---------------------- We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because of the kind of animals that we are. True law derives from this right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state. http://www.jim.com/ James A. Donald
From: Al Klein on 2 Jan 2007 23:24 On 29 Dec 2006 15:09:48 -0800, usenet_trash(a)yahoo.de wrote: > >Al Klein wrote: >> usenet_trash(a)yahoo.de wrote: >> >> >> >The central govt should >> >> >> >transfer all power to the smaller entities and act solely as >> >> >> >representative for foreign representatives. >> >> >> That'll never happen in the US. But, if it did, we'd have civil war >> >> >> with a lot more than 2 sides. >> >> >Why is this believe so widespread? >> >> Because some of us know about evolution and about how human nature >> >> evolved. Altruism outside the group is usually exhibited by extinct species. >> >I fail to see why this should have anything to do with the issue of >> >selfgovernment. >> Usenet's not the place to get 10 years of education in 5 minutes. When >> you understand how anthropoids work you may have a bit more >> understanding of the problem. > >Forget your pseudo-realism. Apparently you confuse 'how humans work' >with 'how humans work who claim to be the government'. I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man. <plonk>
From: nfolkert on 3 Jan 2007 04:14
flaviaR(a)verizon.net wrote: > On 26-Dec-2006, nfolkert(a)gmail.com wrote: > > > > Yeah, I'm sure you've got a Jewish friend or two. Yes, there may be a > > > scattering of Jews around who might. The overwhelming majority don't. > > > > According to a survey of Jewish families of interfaith couples -- which > > account for one-third of Jewish families total and over half of Jewish > > families formed in the last decade -- about 90% will celebrate > > Christmas, though the overwhelming majority of these will be secular > > celebrations. (http://pnnonline.org/article.php?sid=7123) > > > Which means that not only do a majorityof Jews NOT celebrate Xmas > (even your numbers show this), I never said a majority of Jews celebrated Christmas. I was responding to someone who asserted in this thread that virtually no Jews celebrated secular traditions that are associated with Christmas, such as decorating trees. I thought examining some relevant surveys might shed more light on approximately how widespread such behavior is. Half of interfaith Jewish families and one fifth of entirely Jewish families (if these survey numbers are to be trusted) is not "a scattering", even if it is not a majority. > it is, as we all thought, only those who > do not really identify with being Jewish. This was a survey of families that do identify as Jewish, and are raising their children as Jewish, but where one partner was not originally Jewish. I would suspect that non-religious interfaith families have a significantly higher participation rate still. But I doubt I could find a survey demonstrating this. [...] - Nate |