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From: MitchB on 19 Jul 2010 10:47
"Keane" <keane(a)keanespics.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 09:46:34 -0400, "MitchB"
> <sugarandspicefortwo(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>"Barry Wallis" <Barry_Wallis(a)acm.org> wrote in message
>>news:i20gub$thm$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Karen and I went to DL and DCA yesterday. Unfortunately, it was too hot
>>> and crowded for us to really enjoy ourselves. We didn't get any farther
>>> in
>>> than The Mad Hatter shop on Main Street. We then went to DCA and found
>>> we
>>> could purchase all the commemorative items we wanted there (Disneyland
>>> birthday ears and some limited edition pins).
>>>
>>> <http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=19661&id=100000261383687&l=eb91a8f798>
>>>
>>> I tried a new idea to avoid people in a wide photo. Instead of standing
>>> back with my wide angle lens, I got closer and took several pictures. I
>>> was close enough that people avoided walking in front of me. I then use
>>> Microsoft Image Composite Editor to stitch them together. It worked
>>> great.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Great pics Barry! I shall be seeing it in person in approximately 6 Days
>>22 Hrs 52 Mins 26 Secs!
>>
>>Michelle
>
> Well, go on, say it. You know you want to...
>
> Keane
> --

Just for you my dear Keane - I CAN'T WAIT!!!

Michelle

From: Barry on 19 Jul 2010 15:10
On Jul 19, 6:46 am, "MitchB" <sugarandspicefor...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Barry Wallis" <Barry_Wal...(a)acm.org> wrote in message
>
> news:i20gub$thm$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>
> > Karen and I went to DL and DCA yesterday. Unfortunately, it was too hot
> > and crowded for us to really enjoy ourselves. We didn't get any farther in
> > than The Mad Hatter shop on Main Street. We then went to DCA and found we
> > could purchase all the commemorative items we wanted there (Disneyland
> > birthday ears and some limited edition pins).
>
> > <http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=19661&id=100000261383687&l=eb91...>
>
> > I tried a new idea to avoid people in a wide photo. Instead of standing
> > back with my wide angle lens, I got closer and took several pictures. I
> > was close enough that people avoided walking in front of me. I then use
> > Microsoft Image Composite Editor to stitch them together. It worked great.
>
> Great pics Barry!   I shall be seeing it in person in approximately 6 Days
> 22 Hrs 52 Mins 26 Secs!

Thanks Michelle. I hope you have a great time.

- Barry
From: Keane on 19 Jul 2010 15:28
On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 20:31:29 -0700, Barry Wallis
<Barry_Wallis(a)acm.org> wrote:

>Karen and I went to DL and DCA yesterday. Unfortunately, it was too hot
>and crowded for us to really enjoy ourselves. We didn't get any farther
>in than The Mad Hatter shop on Main Street. We then went to DCA and
>found we could purchase all the commemorative items we wanted there
>(Disneyland birthday ears and some limited edition pins).
>
><http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=19661&id=100000261383687&l=eb91a8f798>
>
>I tried a new idea to avoid people in a wide photo. Instead of standing
>back with my wide angle lens, I got closer and took several pictures. I
>was close enough that people avoided walking in front of me. I then use
>Microsoft Image Composite Editor to stitch them together. It worked great.

How does the image compositor do with wide panoramics? The wide
shots on your site look pretty good. I saw no artifacts.

The other thing you can do (if the person you're with has the
patience), is to tripod (or at least try not to move) and take several
images within say... 5 or 10 minutes, then overlay the photos and
literally erase guests from the picture. (It has to be within a short
time frame so you don't get obvious sun movement, and it
moves faster than you might think.)

This won't work for large crowds, but it can work for light to
medium crowds. (I do it all the time when joining panoramics.
I don't try for zero people, but if I can easily erase someone
out of the pic, I do.)

Keane
--
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One of them is this, They have the power to make a wish come true...
-- Wishes
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From: Barry Wallis on 20 Jul 2010 00:47
On 7/19/2010 12:28 PM, Keane wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 20:31:29 -0700, Barry Wallis
> <Barry_Wallis(a)acm.org> wrote:
>
>> Karen and I went to DL and DCA yesterday. Unfortunately, it was too hot
>> and crowded for us to really enjoy ourselves. We didn't get any farther
>> in than The Mad Hatter shop on Main Street. We then went to DCA and
>> found we could purchase all the commemorative items we wanted there
>> (Disneyland birthday ears and some limited edition pins).
>>
>> <http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=19661&id=100000261383687&l=eb91a8f798>
>>
>> I tried a new idea to avoid people in a wide photo. Instead of standing
>> back with my wide angle lens, I got closer and took several pictures. I
>> was close enough that people avoided walking in front of me. I then use
>> Microsoft Image Composite Editor to stitch them together. It worked great.
>
> How does the image compositor do with wide panoramics? The wide
> shots on your site look pretty good. I saw no artifacts.

It works like magic. No, seriously, it is rather amazing and takes no
work on my end. All I do is convert from raw to JPEG, ingest them into
the program, save JPEG at 100% size / 100% quality and edit in Capture
NX2 (my photo editor of choice) as though it was the original. You can
find Microsoft Image Composite Editor here
<http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/redmond/groups/ivm/ice/> and
best of all, it's free.

Here is a panorama from 7 photos. The original is 11,979 by 2,675
pixels. <http://www.flickr.com/photos/barrywallis/4801181926/>.

> The other thing you can do (if the person you're with has the
> patience), is to tripod (or at least try not to move) and take several
> images within say... 5 or 10 minutes, then overlay the photos and
> literally erase guests from the picture. (It has to be within a short
> time frame so you don't get obvious sun movement, and it
> moves faster than you might think.)
>
> This won't work for large crowds, but it can work for light to
> medium crowds. (I do it all the time when joining panoramics.
> I don't try for zero people, but if I can easily erase someone
> out of the pic, I do.)

That's a good idea. I occasionally bring a tripod with me and will need
to keep it in mind.
--
- Barry as TDC Sorcerer
- Magical Manager of the Mysteriously Missing Main Street Magic Shop
- Curator: The Disney Extinct Attractions Graveyard
- <http://www.flickr.com/groups/disney_graveyard/>
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- Photo albums: http://picasaweb.google.com/barry.wallis
From: Keane on 20 Jul 2010 10:00
On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:47:00 -0700, Barry Wallis
<Barry_Wallis(a)acm.org> wrote:

>On 7/19/2010 12:28 PM, Keane wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 20:31:29 -0700, Barry Wallis
>> <Barry_Wallis(a)acm.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Karen and I went to DL and DCA yesterday. Unfortunately, it was too hot
>>> and crowded for us to really enjoy ourselves. We didn't get any farther
>>> in than The Mad Hatter shop on Main Street. We then went to DCA and
>>> found we could purchase all the commemorative items we wanted there
>>> (Disneyland birthday ears and some limited edition pins).
>>>
>>> <http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=19661&id=100000261383687&l=eb91a8f798>
>>>
>>> I tried a new idea to avoid people in a wide photo. Instead of standing
>>> back with my wide angle lens, I got closer and took several pictures. I
>>> was close enough that people avoided walking in front of me. I then use
>>> Microsoft Image Composite Editor to stitch them together. It worked great.
>>
>> How does the image compositor do with wide panoramics? The wide
>> shots on your site look pretty good. I saw no artifacts.
>
>It works like magic. No, seriously, it is rather amazing and takes no
>work on my end. All I do is convert from raw to JPEG, ingest them into
>the program, save JPEG at 100% size / 100% quality and edit in Capture
>NX2 (my photo editor of choice) as though it was the original. You can
>find Microsoft Image Composite Editor here
><http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/redmond/groups/ivm/ice/> and
>best of all, it's free.

I'll have to download it and play with it when I have some free time.
I should have some in August 2011, I think...

>Here is a panorama from 7 photos. The original is 11,979 by 2,675
>pixels. <http://www.flickr.com/photos/barrywallis/4801181926/>.

The display was flat, yes? The results look a little wonky, like
the program had the wrong focal length and attempted to
overcorrect barrel distortion. (Of course, it's extremely
difficult to take a panoramic like that. Your camera almost has
to be on a track, with the focal plane perfectly parallel to the
wall...)

I'll have to try it with a distant panoramic.

>> The other thing you can do (if the person you're with has the
>> patience), is to tripod (or at least try not to move) and take several
>> images within say... 5 or 10 minutes, then overlay the photos and
>> literally erase guests from the picture. (It has to be within a short
>> time frame so you don't get obvious sun movement, and it
>> moves faster than you might think.)
>>
>> This won't work for large crowds, but it can work for light to
>> medium crowds. (I do it all the time when joining panoramics.
>> I don't try for zero people, but if I can easily erase someone
>> out of the pic, I do.)
>
>That's a good idea. I occasionally bring a tripod with me and will need
>to keep it in mind.

Someday I'm going to write a book called, 'Stupid Camera Tricks',
because even though it's a popular phrase, no one's ever written
a book with that title...

Keane
--
When stars are born, They possess a gift or two,
One of them is this, They have the power to make a wish come true...
-- Wishes
Visit my site: http://keanespics.com
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