From: Qanset on 14 Nov 2007 02:20 Craig Welch wrote: > "Rog'" <rcblinnNoSpam(a)bellsouth.net> said: > >> "Craig Welch" <craig(a)pacific.net.sg> wrote: >>> "JohnT" <johnSPAMNOT31(a)fastmail.fm> said: >>>> So the customer has to pay his/her server's minimum >>>> wage in addition to paying for the food and the tax. >>> As in every country in the world. >>> In the US, it's just structured differently. >> Tipping does more to ensure that wait staff receives >> a just wage than would funneling it thru management. > > Really? In countries with which I'm familiar where there is > virtually no tipping, such as Japan, waiters seem to do quite well, > with a decent wage. > You cant compare this subject between the USA and Japan
From: Qanset on 14 Nov 2007 02:23 Brian wrote: > On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 19:49:44 +1100, Qanset <Qanset(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >> Not really, I try to be flexible when observing local customs, but I >> will not be bullied into tipping, which I have seen happen. > > Then as someone said, don't eat at places in which the employees > depend on tips to earn their living. > > Do you always try to change everyone's customs when you travel? > Dont be stupid, you cant change peoples customs in their own country, If they offend you then simply move on.
From: Qanset on 14 Nov 2007 02:24 Louis Krupp wrote: > Qanset wrote: > <snip> >> ... I try to be flexible when observing local customs, but I will not >> be bullied into tipping, which I have seen happen. > > Tipping in the US is like trying to speak French in France; do it, and > people smile. After all, one reason for traveling is to interact with > the locals, and it has to be more fun than just looking at the scenery > while treating the people like robots. Interaction with waiters and so on isn't always just about money. It is in the USA > > Louis
From: Qanset on 14 Nov 2007 02:26 StephanieM wrote: > The part of the question I couldn't understand why is someone would be > miserly not to tip when it is highly likely they are coming from a > place where they are buying US dollars for cheap, that they would be > offended by tipping. > > Its not a case of being miserly. Its a matter of principle. Everybody has the right to decide if they choose to tip or not to tip. In some Asian countries my wife and I have gladly given money to the homeless.
From: Dennis P. Harris on 14 Nov 2007 03:10
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:36:40 GMT in rec.travel.air, john_kulp(a)hotmail.com (John Kulp) wrote: > Then, genius, why isn't this the case in the US which was where they > were all sent before we got independance very few of the original 13 colonies were settled by prisoners; iirc georgia was the only one. some folks immigrated as indentured servants, but were free once they worked off the indenture or apprenticeship. many of the colonies were settled by folks who left england because of religious persecution --- the new england colonies (puritans), pennsylvania (quakers), maryland (catholics), the carolinas (scots presbyterians). |