Tipping in USA/Canada
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From: TMOliver on 12 Nov 2007 10:10 "John Kulp" <john_kulp(a)hotmail.com> wrote ... > On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:57:10 -0800, "Capt. Del" <cptdel(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >> >>As a Brit, personally I'm embarrassed to tip. It's not what I was >>brought up doing. We expect to tip but very discreetly. >>But that's not the American way. >>The American way is to brandish the tip like a fiery sword, making >>sure everybody can see how great a tipper you are. The bigger the tip >>the greater the guy you are. > > Talk about arrogant stupidity. You should be embarrassed for accusing > all Americans of acting like this. It would be no different than if I > said all Brits are thugs because of what a few football fans act like. > Real genius you are. > >> >>Staff at restaurants and bars accept the minimum wage knowing that the >>real wages are in the tips. >>Restaurant owners know that staff are fighting for the job and would >>even take the job for nothing, but they are legally compelled to pay >>the minimum wage. >>There are some establishments that stop paying even the minimum wage >>if a certain figure of tips is reached. > > Name one. > >>It's not uncommon for a cute barmaid to make $1,000 a week in tips. >>Watch out! If she touches you or laughs at your jokes expect to double >>the tip and don't ever give loose change. > > Name one. > >> >>The way to think about it is, this is not a tip, this is the cost of >>service. >>Welcome to America! > > No, in your case, stay home. > .....and those of us who are older can easily recall when "service" was not added to the check/cuenta/conta in the UK and the Continent, sales tax had not yet appeared, and the Socialists/Levelers/Atheist Lollards/Cloth-capped Bigots of the Left had not begun to exercise their collective social paranoia. Tipping was the common and accepted practice in Western Europe, although banned by Marxist self-pride, but still expected under the table in the East, and has only seems strange to those who came of age and traveled to Europe after the 60s. In other words, most here speak cloaked in ignorance, simply en-wombed in teat to the grave security of Socialist Pablum. Next you'll be wanting free housing! (;-P) TMO
From: Frank F. Matthews on 12 Nov 2007 10:10 Craig Welch wrote: > Mr Travel <mrtravel(a)aa.aa> said: >>Craig Welch wrote: >>>Wendy's is a fast food outlet. It does not serve quality, tasty >>>food. Period. >>You've obviously haven't been there. > Well yeah, I've been a couple of times. But that's not normally the > kind of food I eat. So because it isn't your kind of food the it clearly isn't "quality, tasty food"? Actually among the fast food entities Wendy's has for the past 40 years or so done quite good quality and imaginative food for the genre.
From: Frank F. Matthews on 12 Nov 2007 10:12 Dennis P. Harris wrote: > On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:57:10 -0800 in rec.travel.air, "Capt. Del" > <cptdel(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >>As a Brit, personally I'm embarrassed to tip. It's not what I was >>brought up doing. We expect to tip but very discreetly. >>But that's not the American way. >>The American way is to brandish the tip like a fiery sword, making >>sure everybody can see how great a tipper you are. > > > because, unfortunately, if you don't, some judgemental idiot will > assume that you're a cheapskate. > > you have to remember that most americans don't carry the > upperclass/lowerclass baggage that many brits do --- or the > resentment that aussies & kiwis have about gratuities that's > connected with the supposed unequal relationship between server > and served. i thnk with the aussies that much of it has to do > with the resentment inherited from transported prisoner > attitudes. > I haven't noticed any difference in Georgia in the US.
From: Robert Cohen on 12 Nov 2007 17:59 On Nov 9, 10:41 pm, Robert Cohen <robtco...(a)msn.com> wrote: > On Nov 8, 8:13 pm, Hatunen <hatu...(a)cox.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:35:09 -0800, Robert Cohen > > > <robtco...(a)msn.com> wrote: > > >i suppose one > > > u.s. dollar per customer at a non-pretentious dinner or at a now > > >very common buffet restaurant is reasonable, or > > >in other words, two dollars per couple, et cetera-- > > > >you can certainly eventually get sick of 'em, but ryan's and the > > >other buffet restaurants convey unlimited and many varities of food, > > >and i bet few places in the world are this way, ten dollars or less > > >person, unlimited goood food > > > >at the fancier class restaurants, tip at least ten percent of the > > >total bill, and of course many or rmost people leave 15 percent or > > >twenty percent or more > > > >you'll feel ripped-off at yuppie places like ruby fridays, so wendy et > > >al fast food and those amazing buffet places are best for budget > > >traveller > > > >for clothes and chotskies go to the tangar shopping outlet places > > >and several other factory outlet places is where the people genrally > > >seem to be especially on weekends > > > >the u.s.a. is pndeed complex, so a guide book wouldn't hurt > > > >if one is not affluent, one goes to wendy's etal > > > You can't kid me. You're really Archie the Cockroach, aren't you? > > > -- > > ************* DAVE HATUNEN (hatu...(a)cox.net) ************* > > * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * > > * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > fyi and rationalization and in the vein of frommer's europe on five > dollars per day: > > there is that declasse underside of the continent that the usual > tourist guidebooks probably ignore- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I dined inside a Wendy's earlier today, after buying 15 gallons of low lead for $45 while cussing... at self etal Junior cheeseburger deluxe w/ bacon (fat and calorie indulgent and do hypothesize it'll compete well with Alta Charlie's Ruby Thursadys' glorified junque in blind tests) Cup of chile (imho, beats the chile at Chili's) Baked potato (plain and w/o die-licious sour cream 'n butter) Lite lemonade (low cal, apparently it has a little less sugar but who really knows) Side salad (no dressing) (b-t-w: salad in italy is yuk, and i dunno exactly why, and rather quaintly they eat it at the end rather than the start of meal) The total order is $5 and some change (each item is either 99 cents or $1) Proletarian reading matter, USA TODAY, second to the last newspaper in outside box took another 75 cents They got the order right, because I didn't say,"junior cheesebuger deluxe, hold the cheese," which is apparently the wendyesque way to order a junior hamburger deluxe with lettuce and tomato (any constructive suggestions from the jaded, bored directors here about this quasi communication conundrum?) The chili I pour on the potato ain't a bad combo, though messy As is custom, I didn't leave that meager tip, though bussed/carried the trash into the garbage-thing on the way out, which is customary too, and by gosh there was space in it)
From: Rog' on 12 Nov 2007 18:39
"Craig Welch" <craig(a)pacific.net.sg> wrote: > And I'm suggesting that the genre itself is poor. Then I'd suggest that you're a food-snob. Just 'cuz a sandwich comes wrapped in foil or in a basket, don't make it any worse than a similar sandwich served on a plate. |