From: Walt on
In article <i18fde$f5k$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
tom ronson <theavlv.ronson(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

> Walt wrote:
>
> > Big effin deal. I was communicating on CompuServe and The Source back in
> > 1980
> > with a 0.3k modem,
>
> yikes --- I recall those days, and the horrific bills you'd get on your
> per minute charges. (shiver)

Yeah, you had to plan your session beforehand and then hit-and-run. Later in
the mid-80's I was in a fantasy baseball league on Compuserve and on draft day
we'd be online in a chat room for 4-5 hours straight. Fortunately the connect
charges had decreased by then, plus the draft was only one day a year. There
weren't any prizes for winning, though, so you had to be in it for the
enjoyment.
>
> > Prodigy or Mindspring even existed,
>
> oh, I forgot --- these two had nothing to do with the creation of the
> internet. sure we could joke that AlGore did --- but I'm sure wiki has
> the time line down better than Donnie does.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet
>
> > And even farther back, in 1970, I took a
> > BASIC programming class in high school, where we keyed in our programs on
> > punch tape.
>
> remember the old DEC stuff where you'd toggle switches on the front
> panel? The Altair 8080 (as I recall) was the first "home" kit.

I only read about those in magazines at the time. Before I ever bought a
computer I subscribed to Creative Computing for a year or two. After
educating myself about TRS-80s, Ohio Scientifics, et al., in early 1980 I
decided to splurge on an Apple II because it had color and a bunch of slots
for add-on cards. Cost me around $2,300 with the full 48K memory and a 300bps
modem. And of course I later spent mucho more bucks on printers and stuff. I
don't even want to know how much that is in current dollars! But it sure was
fun back then. Apple turned out to be a great choice and I've been buying
them ever since.

> In those days smart asses like me would plant "bombs" on those mighty
> computers. Something along the lines of a "do loop" and then a call to a
> non-existent port. I'd be long home and in bed when your overnight
> program would crash without explanation. lol

My crashes always had explanations, unfortunately!

> ah, the good old days. <grin>

Right, and now every Johnny-come-lately who signed up with Prodigy or AOL
think's he's a pioneer!

--- Walt
From: tom ronson on
Walt wrote:

> Right, and now every Johnny-come-lately who signed up with Prodigy or AOL
> think's he's a pioneer!

<smirk> tell me about it.

--

"How can one little Street swallow so many lives?" -- The Offspring, The
Kids Aren't Alright

--tr
From: Las Vegas Don on
On Jul 9, 7:32 pm, Kurt Ullman <kurtull...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> In article <i18fde$f5...(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
>  tom ronson <theavlv.ron...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Walt wrote:
>
> > > Big effin deal.  I was communicating on CompuServe and The Source back in
> > > 1980
> > > with a 0.3k modem,
>
> > yikes --- I recall those days, and the horrific bills you'd get on your
> > per minute charges. (shiver)


That ain't nuthin!!

I was screamin at strangers on the street corners and cats in the
trees in 1979, and almost got away with it. When I did it I wore my
best flip flops and tried to tuck mah bellie under mah
shirt, ...always came out tho. I did not have to pay charges like you
did. They made me take pills tho. I still have these funny
flashbacks at times to these things that shot electricity put up
yonder to the sides a mah head. I used win 3.1, and hated it.

Don, and phasing into Otto :)

Don
From: Las Vegas Don on
On Jul 9, 8:07 pm, Walt <n...(a)none.void> wrote:
> In article <i18fde$f5...(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
>  tom ronson <theavlv.ron...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Walt wrote:
>
> > > Big effin deal.  I was communicating on CompuServe and The Source back in
> > > 1980
> > > with a 0.3k modem,
>
> > yikes --- I recall those days, and the horrific bills you'd get on your
> > per minute charges. (shiver)
>
> Yeah, you had to plan your session beforehand and then hit-and-run.  Later in
> the mid-80's I was in a fantasy baseball league on Compuserve and on draft day
> we'd be online in a chat room for 4-5 hours straight.  Fortunately the connect
> charges had decreased by then, plus the draft was only one day a year.  There
> weren't any prizes for winning, though, so you had to be in it for the
> enjoyment.
>
>
>
> > > Prodigy or Mindspring even existed,
>
> > oh, I forgot --- these two had nothing to do with the creation of the
> > internet. sure we could joke that AlGore did --- but I'm sure wiki has
> > the time line down better than Donnie does.
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet
>
> > > And even farther back, in 1970, I took a
> > > BASIC programming class in high school, where we keyed in our programs on
> > > punch tape.
>
> > remember the old DEC stuff where you'd toggle switches on the front
> > panel? The Altair 8080 (as I recall) was the first "home" kit.
>
> I only read about those in magazines at the time.  Before I ever bought a
> computer I subscribed to Creative Computing for a year or two.  After
> educating myself about TRS-80s, Ohio Scientifics, et al., in early 1980 I
> decided to splurge on an Apple II because it had color and a bunch of slots
> for add-on cards.  Cost me around $2,300 with the full 48K memory and a 300bps
> modem.  And of course I later spent mucho more bucks on printers and stuff.  I
> don't even want to know how much that is in current dollars!  But it sure was
> fun back then.  Apple turned out to be a great choice and I've been buying
> them ever since.
>
> > In those days smart asses like me would plant "bombs" on those mighty
> > computers. Something along the lines of a "do loop" and then a call to a
> > non-existent port. I'd be long home and in bed when your overnight
> > program would crash without explanation. lol
>
> My crashes always had explanations, unfortunately!
>
> > ah, the good old days. <grin>
>
> Right, and now every Johnny-come-lately who signed up with Prodigy or AOL
> think's he's a pioneer!
>
>    --- Walt

Apples have always been better systems than PC's. Is Prodigy still
around?? How about Compuserve??

Don
From: JRogow on
Walt wrote:
> In article <i18fde$f5k$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> tom ronson <theavlv.ronson(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Walt wrote:
>>
>>> Big effin deal. I was communicating on CompuServe and The Source back in
>>> 1980
>>> with a 0.3k modem,
>> yikes --- I recall those days, and the horrific bills you'd get on your
>> per minute charges. (shiver)
>
> Yeah, you had to plan your session beforehand and then hit-and-run. Later in
> the mid-80's I was in a fantasy baseball league on Compuserve and on draft day
> we'd be online in a chat room for 4-5 hours straight. Fortunately the connect
> charges had decreased by then, plus the draft was only one day a year. There
> weren't any prizes for winning, though, so you had to be in it for the
> enjoyment.
>>> Prodigy or Mindspring even existed,
>> oh, I forgot --- these two had nothing to do with the creation of the
>> internet. sure we could joke that AlGore did --- but I'm sure wiki has
>> the time line down better than Donnie does.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet
>>
>>> And even farther back, in 1970, I took a
>>> BASIC programming class in high school, where we keyed in our programs on
>>> punch tape.
>> remember the old DEC stuff where you'd toggle switches on the front
>> panel? The Altair 8080 (as I recall) was the first "home" kit.
>
> I only read about those in magazines at the time. Before I ever bought a
> computer I subscribed to Creative Computing for a year or two. After
> educating myself about TRS-80s, Ohio Scientifics, et al., in early 1980 I
> decided to splurge on an Apple II because it had color and a bunch of slots
> for add-on cards. Cost me around $2,300 with the full 48K memory and a 300bps
> modem. And of course I later spent mucho more bucks on printers and stuff. I
> don't even want to know how much that is in current dollars! But it sure was
> fun back then. Apple turned out to be a great choice and I've been buying
> them ever since.
>
>> In those days smart asses like me would plant "bombs" on those mighty
>> computers. Something along the lines of a "do loop" and then a call to a
>> non-existent port. I'd be long home and in bed when your overnight
>> program would crash without explanation. lol
>
> My crashes always had explanations, unfortunately!
>
>> ah, the good old days. <grin>
>
> Right, and now every Johnny-come-lately who signed up with Prodigy or AOL
> think's he's a pioneer!
>
> --- Walt

Oh, Compuserve, I remember the first time I sent an article in using
IIRC a 9.6 baud modem.

It whirled and clanked, and then the editor telephoned me to say it had
been received. What a feeling!

Now, I sit on the porch and send my work via our Wi-Fi connection, and
pretty much all my communication is via email.
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