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From: The Reid on 27 Jul 2006 06:02 Following up to Tchiowa >> None of the offices was air-conditioned. By none I mean zero. They were >> full of people and computers and we had meetings and worked on the >> computers by the refreshing air of fans. Many of these computers were 8 >> or 9 years old and still humming along fine. All of the people were even >> older than that and likewise still humming along fine. > >Come on, Miguel. Where in Thailand are these offices? I live and work >in Thailand and *EVERYTHING* (at least in Bangkok) is air-conditioned. >Every office, every apartment, every shopping mall. OK, maybe not >"every". 95%. Or more. is the difference here between a perception of an "international" district and one of the country in general? -- Mike Reid Walk-eat-photos UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site Walk-eat-photos Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
From: The Reid on 27 Jul 2006 06:12 Following up to Tchiowa >> In Thailand the situation is somewhat similar, AC is fairly widespread >> amongst the upper socio economic classes but not available for >> the majority. > >Blithering nonsense. I live in Thailand. A/C is not commonly used in >farming areas because the houses aren't sufficiently well-insulated. >But during the hottest times of the year the locals complain about >difficulty sleeping. > >The majority of people in Thailand have A/C available. Whether they >choose to buy it or not is a different story. In Bangkok probably 95% >of the middle class has A/C and half of the poor. LOL You are saying something fairly close to the poster you are replying to while calling it "blithering nonsense" perhaps due to not understanding, or choosing not to understand "available". -- Mike Reid Walk-eat-photos UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site Walk-eat-photos Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
From: Keith W on 27 Jul 2006 06:28 "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1153993163.701557.41520(a)s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Keith W wrote: >> "Mxsmanic" <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:uitfc2tkon6lkegpi9patrfu649r676sr3(a)4ax.com... >> > Dave Frightens Me writes: >> > >> >> Name a few such countries. >> > >> > Essentially all of them: Singapore, India, Thailand, Nigeria, Saudi >> > Arabia, etc. They all have air conditioning. While the Third World >> > may still lag somewhat behind the most developed countries, it hasn't >> > been standing still. >> > >> >> Absolute cobblers >> >> I lived in Singapore for a few months, while most businesses had >> AC a large percentage of residential properties did not. Singapore >> is very much a 1st world country by the way. They have the >> highest ratio of college graduates per capita in the world IRC > > I've been in a dozen residential flats in Singapore and all had A/C. > >> Less than 5% of the population of India have AC, indeed in most villages >> the electricity supply is inadequate for anything other than lighting > > True. > >> In Thailand the situation is somewhat similar, AC is fairly widespread >> amongst the upper socio economic classes but not available for >> the majority. > > Blithering nonsense. I live in Thailand. A/C is not commonly used in > farming areas because the houses aren't sufficiently well-insulated. > But during the hottest times of the year the locals complain about > difficulty sleeping. > > The majority of people in Thailand have A/C available. Whether they > choose to buy it or not is a different story. In Bangkok probably 95% > of the middle class has A/C and half of the poor. > Most people dont live in Bangkok and most of the population DONT have AC >> In Nigeria outside of foreign compounds and government offices >> its almost unknown. Most Nigerians count themselves lucky >> to have a transistor radio let alone AC > > I've lived in Nigeria for 2-3 years total. Again, in the rural areas > where there is no A/C you're right. But in Lagos or Abuja or PH A/C is > not at all uncommon. They are a small part of the country and I doubt you spent much time in the poorer districts. When 60% of the population hevent even got electricity you wont seem many air conditioners > And your comment about radios is kind of silly. > Maybe 20 years ago. > Nope, according to official Nigerian Govt statistics only 10% of rural households and 40% of the total population have access to electricity. Why do you think Trevor Bayliss invented the clockwork radio ? Keith
From: Mxsmanic on 27 Jul 2006 09:24 Miguel Cruz writes: > The amount of clothing required to maintain core temperature at the > below-freezing temperatures typical of densely-populated Europe, north > America, and east Asia does not make it practical to do most household > tasks or perform most work functions. The amount of perspiration and air movement required to maintain core temperature at the high temperatures typical of densely-populated Paris these days in summer does not make it practical to do most household tasks or perform most work functions. > You can insulate yourself in 4 > inches of goose down and cling film but then you are not going to get > anything else done, not least because your fingers have become giant > senseless sausages. You can drench yourself in sweat and sit in the direct airstream of three fans but then you are not going to get anything else done, not least because you are dripping water on everything and you cannot move away from the constant air stream or exert yourself in any way without raising your temperature. > Hence heating is necessary in order to do all the other things that > people have to do in order to stay alive. So is cooling, as I've demonstrated above. > Meanwhile, in the densely-populated areas of the tropics, etc., > air-conditioning is a luxury, by no means necessary to safely conduct > normal business. It's only in extreme desert areas that it becomes a > necessity. In a modern society in hot weather, air conditioning is as necessary as running water. Those who realize this win; those who deny it lose. > However, when you take all the places that people actually live, and > weight by the number of people actually living there, it's a lot easier > to get hypothermia than hyperthermia. That makes no difference for individuals in extreme temperatures. The fact that the Arctic is cold doesn't help you if you are in a 50 C environment. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.
From: Mxsmanic on 27 Jul 2006 09:25
The Reid writes: > is the difference here between a perception of an "international" > district and one of the country in general? Perhaps it is the difference between a civilized metropolis and a backward countryside. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |