From: Lisa Cubbon on
On 8/2/2010 5:21 PM, Rudeney wrote:
> On 8/2/2010 12:26 PM, Lisa Cubbon wrote:
>>
>> I think WHEN I replace my Volvo, I would like a small Volvo SUV but I
>> like having a real trunk that holds lots of stuff out the the view of
>> prying eyes. I know they have those privacy shades in SUVs but it's not
>> the same as a piece of something sturdier. But I have years before I get
>> a new car, I hope. We had friends with a Murano and that seems nice to
>> me too
>
> I *HATE* Jan's Murano. It looks nice, and has a lot of fancy features
> for the price (as compared to say a Lexus RX350) but that's it. The
> cargo space is totally inadequate for a vehicle its size. The seats are
> small and uncomfortable. Not only are the controls unintuitive, many
> things have more than one control for the same function. Worst of all,
> it handles like to a grapefruit stuck on a pencil.
>
>> but I do love Volvos. I think the accident I was in on 285 years
>> ago made me a lifelong Volvo owner. I crawled out the passenger window.
>> Car was totaled but I was fine.
>
> I have always liked Volvo. I almost bought a 240 years ago. Jan almost
> bought a 740 back when they came out with the "new" body styles, and we
> seriously considered the S80, but it lost out to the Audi A6.
>
the Volvo that was creamed was a 1976 244. I loved that car even if it
didn't have AC. We bought it in Rochester MN. when AC was a luxury.

Lisa
From: jt august on
In article <799d56lusajs8dn1o0srmeqeomns39559i(a)4ax.com>,
Keane <keane(a)keanespics.com> wrote:

> >Pish posh! I have a 1992 Plymouth Voyager with 287,000 miles on it. It
> >is finally getting to the point where I am looking at repair costs that
> >make a replacement the better option.
> >
> >jt
>
> Are there any body panels that don't have rust on 'em? :-)
>
> (Congratulations on being able to keep a beast like that on the road
> so long...)

Actually, this beast is remarkable sound. No visible rust, it does not
have the pealing paint problem many chrysler minivans of the day
suffered. The a/c is dead, heat is virtually cold (problem with the
heat adjusting duct, it is jammed, cable is broken). One cylinder
doesn't fire under 2000 rpm, but fires adequately over 2k such that
highway milage is 25 mpg, city is clocking at 21 mpg last check three
weeks ago. Driver's side window doesn't roll down, but the beast just
passed inspection for plate renewal just in time, a week and a half
later the tail pipe partially came off, have it just hanging on some
home-made tail pipe hangers for now.

Going to Disney in Sep, getting a new(er) vehicle in November
(considering a dream convertible, the WifeBeast(TM) approved the idea).
Getting a new house a/c next spring (hoping the green upgrades credit
gets extended).

jt
From: Brian on
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 05:58:59 -0500, Keane <keane(a)keanespics.com>
wrote:


>Nope. I never know how the car was broken in. Funny thing about
>a lot a people who buy a high horsepower car, they want to use
>all them horsepower, some way too early.
>
>In addition, I'm suspicious on why someone would trade in/sell a car
>after a year or two. Take a huge hit on depreciation, then sell the
>car? Maybe if I could find out why, but you rarely can.

Sometimes cars come off lease and people just want a new one. We've
had mixed luck with used cars. My late father-in-law found us one that
we had for a long time. He knew a used car dealer who had bought it
for his mother but she didn't like it because she was used to a
smaller car.
Another one though seemed to have a lot more wear that what the
mileage indicated.

>Yes. At more than 7000 feet, I can really tell I'm not generating as
>much horsepower as I am in say, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa or
>Nebraska. :-) When on vacation with another person, and a
>full trunk with the air conditioner on, those real fun mountain roads
>should be fun...
>
>Keane

We've only had rentals when I've driven above 7000' but I haven't
noticed any particular problems.
From: Brian on
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:48:56 -0500, Rudeney <rudeney(a)mickeypics.com>
wrote:


>I think if I had to choose an American-brand card, it would have to be a
>Ford. I like the looks of the new Camaro and Challenger, but the new
>Mustang (2011 model w/new engine choices) beats the pants off of them.
>Besides, I might want to "vote with my dollars" and reward Ford for not
>takign a bailout. :-)


We've never owned a Ford but the next time, we will at least look at
what they have and their not taking a bailout (and ownership as a
result) is a factor.
From: Keane on
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 22:43:32 -0400, Brian <drmorrisnospam(a)comcast.net>
wrote:

>On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:48:56 -0500, Rudeney <rudeney(a)mickeypics.com>
>wrote:
>
>
>>I think if I had to choose an American-brand card, it would have to be a
>>Ford. I like the looks of the new Camaro and Challenger, but the new
>>Mustang (2011 model w/new engine choices) beats the pants off of them.
>>Besides, I might want to "vote with my dollars" and reward Ford for not
>>takign a bailout. :-)
>
>
>We've never owned a Ford but the next time, we will at least look at
>what they have and their not taking a bailout (and ownership as a
>result) is a factor.

I've owned a Ford. I could never own another. Not only was build
quality and design awful, but the *two* dealer service places I used
were the worst as well.

It would also keep me from owning a GM product. The last one
I owned would eat a head gasket every 40K miles. My back can no
longer tolerate their suspensions. They made a lot of design choices
that were just plain dumb.

(I've only rented Chryslers, and one of those was a k-car... I'm sure
it's not representative of the company. At least I *hope* the k-car
isn't representative of today's Chrysler...)

Keane
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