From: JohnT on 31 Jul 2006 09:32 "Martin" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message news:e3nrc25cfbepv260feqbe6sspuegtqd1qj(a)4ax.com... > BTW Lidl Wit Bier/ Weisse Hefe Bier is good - just like Paulaner - it > probably is Paulaner. Euro 0,65 for 0.5 litre can. Can you please bring me a few cases when you next visit North-East England? JohnT
From: Stanislas de Kertanguy on 31 Jul 2006 09:57 Le 31/07/2006, The Reid a crit : > Following up to Stanislas de Kertanguy > >>> The discussion was about which OSs were most common before it got side >>> tracked. >> >> Guess who is responsible ! :-) >> >> Maybe Mxsmanic only drove carburettor cars ? > > Using Mixi logic, why isnt a carb an analogue computer? That's fun :-) I can argue that way : A carburettor is a device that delivers a /response/ to an /input instruction/ following /pre-programmed rules/ : the response is the richness of the air/fuel mix, the input instructions are the position of the accelerator wire and, if applicable, the position of the choke/starter wire. The CPUs are the vaporisation chamber and the gas throttle valve. -- remplacez "lesptt" par "laposte" pour me joindre substitute "laposte" for "lesptt" to reach me
From: Stanislas de Kertanguy on 31 Jul 2006 10:00 Le 31/07/2006, The Reid a crit : > Following up to Stanislas de Kertanguy > >>> If you review the thread, you will see that I was using cars as examples of >>> devices that contain one or more computers that are not PCs. >> >> OK, so I infer that injection calculators don't have antivirus software >> because it would destabilize tham ? same for airbag calculators and ABS >> sensors ? > > how would you get a virus into them? Surely objects that are > programmed once or maybe twice will rely on virus protection at > the source of the code, not in the embedded object. I'm pretty sure "virus" protection is, as you write, in the code itself, for a simple calculator like an injection computer. But their code is not locked, as I said, one can "change" it, at one's risk. However, newer cars have powerful onboard computers which, I suspect, run some elaborate software (but I doubt the notion of "operating system" applies, and Mxsmanic got it wrong, again). -- remplacez "lesptt" par "laposte" pour me joindre substitute "laposte" for "lesptt" to reach me
From: The Reid on 31 Jul 2006 10:07 Following up to Stanislas de Kertanguy >But their >code is not locked, as I said, one can "change" it, at one's risk. > >However, newer cars have powerful onboard computers which, I suspect, >run some elaborate software (but I doubt the notion of "operating >system" applies, and Mxsmanic got it wrong, again). IIRC tuning the "computer" of a car is called "chipping" in UK motor trade. -- Mike Reid Walk-eat-photos UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site Walk-eat-photos Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
From: Stanislas de Kertanguy on 31 Jul 2006 10:13
Le 31/07/2006, The Reid a crit : > Following up to Stanislas de Kertanguy > >> But their >> code is not locked, as I said, one can "change" it, at one's risk. >> >> However, newer cars have powerful onboard computers which, I suspect, >> run some elaborate software (but I doubt the notion of "operating >> system" applies, and Mxsmanic got it wrong, again). > > IIRC tuning the "computer" of a car is called "chipping" in UK > motor trade. In French, it's a part of ... "tuning" ! which also generally implies fitting ugly parts onto the car, trying to mock a GTi from a 45 hp 1.9 Diesel powered rustbucket ... -- remplacez "lesptt" par "laposte" pour me joindre substitute "laposte" for "lesptt" to reach me |