Officers With Assault Rifles Patrol Downtown Orlando After Bottles Tossed At Police
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From: Paragon on 14 Jun 2007 19:45 "Dave Gordon" <d@p> wrote in message news:4671c367$1_2(a)mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com... > Under what circumstances would the "large assault rifles" be used? Seems > like either a show of force with no intent to use, or a serious incident > waiting to happen. "large assault rifles"? Everything looks large to idiot reporters who can't tell a pistol from a revolver. Unless someone can link to a photo of this, I'd say what they saw were shotguns......the shotguns can shoot beanbags and other non-lethal projectiles. Otherwise, they were simply AR-15s, which are what our troops use. They shoot .223 caliber, and are not any big deal. No more than any other rifle. In a situation such as a near riot, I'll take all the intimidation factor I can get! ;) > "Dave" <newenglandarchives(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:1181845128.439620.183020(a)i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >> On Apr 24, 6:29 pm, jgrov...(a)hotmail.com wrote: >>> www.local6.com/news/12610602/detail.html?rss=orlpn&psp=news: >>> >>> ORLANDO, Fla. -- Incidents of beer bottles tossed at police prompted >>> a major crackdown outside nightclubs indowntownOrlandothat included >>> officers patrolling the crowds with large assault rifles. >>> >>> Police said they want to take control back of thedowntownarea after >>> some incidents by people leaving clubs, according to the report. >>> "They are out-of-control partiers," Local 6's Laura Diaz said. "They >>> are coming out of nightclubs like Taboo and they are absolutely losing >>> control. They are throwing beer bottles at patrol cars and urinating >>> off balconies." >>> >>> Local 6 video showed officers carrying large assault rifles as they >>> monitored the crowds Thursday night and early Friday. >>> In recent weeks, there have been shooting and robberies in >>> thedowntownarea, Diaz said. >>> >>> Meanwhile, club owners indowntownOrlandoare lobbying to keep their >>> businesses open two hours later, the report said. >>> The crackdown is the second this year. >> >> Downtown Orlando is a dump. And for you tourist don't confuse downtown >> Orlando with Disney World, Sea World, or Universal Studios. That area >> is very safe. Downtown Orlando is for losers. >> > >
From: jgrove24 on 14 Jun 2007 19:59 On Jun 14, 6:45 pm, "Paragon" <cybe...(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > "Dave Gordon" <d@p> wrote in message > > news:4671c367$1_2(a)mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com... > > > Under what circumstances would the "large assault rifles" be used? Seems > > like either a show of force with no intent to use, or a serious incident > > waiting to happen. > > "large assault rifles"? Everything looks large to idiot reporters who can't > tell a pistol from a revolver. Unless someone can link to a photo of this, > I'd say what they saw were shotguns......the shotguns can shoot beanbags and > other non-lethal projectiles. Otherwise, they were simply AR-15s, which are > what our troops use. They shoot .223 caliber, and are not any big deal. No > more than any other rifle. In a situation such as a near riot, I'll take > all the intimidation factor I can get! ;) > They were ar-15s, OPD wanted to do a full show and be ready in case anyone wanted trouble. At least some authorities are facing reality: "Operation All Hands on Deck will target the high-crime pockets in downtown Orlando, the Parramore, Rosemont, Mercy Drive and Kirkman Road and International Drive corridors. "We are in a three-year epidemic. We've got to solve it, and it's going to start at the local level," Orlando Police Chief Mike McCoy said."
From: Dave Gordon on 15 Jun 2007 06:16 <jgrove24(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1181865541.017597.95740(a)j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > On Jun 14, 6:45 pm, "Paragon" <cybe...(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >> "Dave Gordon" <d@p> wrote in message >> >> news:4671c367$1_2(a)mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com... >> >> > Under what circumstances would the "large assault rifles" be used? Seems >> > like either a show of force with no intent to use, or a serious incident >> > waiting to happen. >> >> "large assault rifles"? Everything looks large to idiot reporters who can't >> tell a pistol from a revolver. Unless someone can link to a photo of this, >> I'd say what they saw were shotguns......the shotguns can shoot beanbags and >> other non-lethal projectiles. Otherwise, they were simply AR-15s, which are >> what our troops use. They shoot .223 caliber, and are not any big deal. No >> more than any other rifle. In a situation such as a near riot, I'll take >> all the intimidation factor I can get! ;) >> > > They were ar-15s, OPD wanted to do a full show and be ready in case > anyone > wanted trouble. > > At least some authorities are facing reality: Not saying I am unhappy with a show of force by the police, I was just wondering how an assault rifle that will not be used, is useful in crowd control. I've never been shot by a .223 cal, but I'm relieved to hear they are "not any big deal". If that is so they why would troops use them? A drunken crowd who are too off their heads to know when to stop vs a bunch of outnumbered, perhaps scared, cops with guns is a recipe for a tragedy. Anyone remember Kent State? Go look it up on Wikipedia. Batons and body armour would be better.
From: Dave on 15 Jun 2007 12:12 On Jun 15, 10:34 am, Rudeney <rude...(a)mickeypics.com> wrote: > Dave wrote: > > > Downtown Orlando is a dump. And for you tourist don't confuse downtown > > Orlando with Disney World, Sea World, or Universal Studios. That area > > is very safe. Downtown Orlando is for losers. > > I had never been to downtown Orlando until last year. My wife works for > a large bank and had to visit the downtown Orlando office. Of course we > turned this into a WDW trip, but the first half of the week we stayed at > the Embassy Suites there and found the area to be fairly nice. Like any > city business district, we did notice that it tended to get a bit less > inviting at night simply because there were fewer people on the streets. > Regardless, several times we walked around the area to eat and shop. > We never felt threatened or unsafe, but of course we also are not > stupid. I did drive through a few areas that were less nice than where > we were, but I would not call downtown Orlando a dump, but of course > it's no WDW. > > -- > > - RODNEY > > Tentative Next WDW Vacation > Spring Break 2008! > (??? Days To Go) When Church Street booming it was a much better place. Now all you see are sleazy night clubs and tattoo parlors. I have a family and I don't take chances with them. You're taking chances when you go downtown during the day or night. Also Universal Studios opened City Walk. My kids love it. And it's safe.
From: Bartender Sam on 15 Jun 2007 16:11
"Paragon" <cyberb7(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message news:dqkci.512$W_6.1(a)newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net... > > > "large assault rifles"? Everything looks large to idiot reporters who > can't tell a pistol from a revolver. Unless someone can link to a photo > of this, I'd say what they saw were shotguns......the shotguns can shoot > beanbags and other non-lethal projectiles. Otherwise, they were simply > AR-15s, which are what our troops use. They shoot .223 caliber, and are > not any big deal. No more than any other rifle. In a situation such as a > near riot, I'll take all the intimidation factor I can get! ;) Yep, AR-15 is the civilian version of the M-16, nice weapon just don't get it dirty. Plus I would much rather read that article than one titled "Riot breaks out in downtown Orlando". Keep in mind there is also no such thing as a "small assault rifle" too. I also agree that reporters are mostly idiots (dated one and met her coworkers at MANY parties) they love to dream up ways to sensationalize a situation. --- Yet another satisfied customer of Bartender Sam! |