Tipping in USA/Canada
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From: StephanieM on 10 Nov 2007 09:09 Maybe you haven't been on many tours, but I have been on tours in Scotland, England, Germany, and Greece, and all guides have asked for their gratutity. In fact they often hand you envelopes to put your gratutity in. So I don't know wherer you are coming from, but it definately sounds like you are looking for a bargin. And you know where to come for one. Next time try Thailand though, I hear it is even better there especially if you enjoy the sunny beaches.
From: Louis Krupp on 10 Nov 2007 13:03 JohnT wrote: > "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:1194699481.166415.288670(a)c30g2000hsa.googlegroups.com... > > >> Here's the reality. Waiters and similar staff are paid close to >> nothing. They depend on tips to live. Tipping is so complete and >> common that the IRS assumes they're getting tips and taxes them for >> it, whether they get them or not. >> >> That's just the way it's done in the US. If you can't afford it, stay >> home. >> > > Is there no such thing as a Minimum Wage in the home of the brave and > the land of the free? Here in the UK, the legal minimum wage for workers > over age 21 is GBP �5.52 per hour, which is the equivalent of US $11.60 > per hour. Yes, there is a federal minimum wage. From http://www.dol.gov/compliance/topics/wages-minimum-wage.htm: The federal minimum wage for covered, nonexempt employees is $5.85 per hour effective July 24, 2007... Some states specify a higher minimum wage. However, tips may be assumed to comprise part of the minimum wage. From http://www.dol.gov/elaws/faq/esa/flsa/002.htm: .... An employer of a tipped employee is only required to pay $2.13 an hour in direct wages if that amount plus the tips received equals at least the federal minimum wage, the employee retains all tips and the employee customarily and regularly receives more than $30 a month in tips. If an employee's tips combined with the employer's direct wages of at least $2.13 an hour do not equal the federal minimum hourly wage, the employer must make up the difference. Louis
From: John L on 10 Nov 2007 13:23 >> Here's the reality. Waiters and similar staff are paid close to >> nothing. They depend on tips to live.... >> >> That's just the way it's done in the US. If you can't afford it, stay >> home. > >Is there no such thing as a Minimum Wage in the home of the brave and the >land of the free? There is, but for restaurant workers, it includes an assumed miminum amount of tips. Really, if you don't tip your waiter, it's like you walked out without paying.
From: JohnT on 10 Nov 2007 16:39 "Louis Krupp" <lkrupp(a)pssw.nospam.com.invalid> wrote in message news:13jbsj0eirsrva0(a)corp.supernews.com... > JohnT wrote: >> "Tchiowa" <tchiowa2(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:1194699481.166415.288670(a)c30g2000hsa.googlegroups.com... >> >> >>> Here's the reality. Waiters and similar staff are paid close to >>> nothing. They depend on tips to live. Tipping is so complete and >>> common that the IRS assumes they're getting tips and taxes them for >>> it, whether they get them or not. >>> >>> That's just the way it's done in the US. If you can't afford it, stay >>> home. >>> >> >> Is there no such thing as a Minimum Wage in the home of the brave and the >> land of the free? Here in the UK, the legal minimum wage for workers over >> age 21 is GBP �5.52 per hour, which is the equivalent of US $11.60 per >> hour. > > Yes, there is a federal minimum wage. From > http://www.dol.gov/compliance/topics/wages-minimum-wage.htm: > > The federal minimum wage for covered, nonexempt employees is $5.85 per > hour effective July 24, 2007... > > Some states specify a higher minimum wage. > > However, tips may be assumed to comprise part of the minimum wage. From > http://www.dol.gov/elaws/faq/esa/flsa/002.htm: > > ... An employer of a tipped employee is only required to pay $2.13 an > hour in direct wages if that amount plus the tips received equals at least > the federal minimum wage, the employee retains all tips and the employee > customarily and regularly receives more than $30 a month in tips. If an > employee's tips combined with the employer's direct wages of at least > $2.13 an hour do not equal the federal minimum hourly wage, the employer > must make up the difference. > So the customer has to pay his/her server's minimum wage in addition to paying for the food and the tax. Is the employee required to buy her groceries at the Company Store? -- JohnT
From: Rog' on 10 Nov 2007 20:03
"Craig Welch" <craig(a)pacific.net.sg> wrote: > "JohnT" <johnSPAMNOT31(a)fastmail.fm> said: >>So the customer has to pay his/her server's minimum >>wage in addition to paying for the food and the tax. > As in every country in the world. > In the US, it's just structured differently. Tipping does more to ensure that wait staff receives a just wage than would funneling it thru management. |