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From: William Black on 10 Jun 2010 10:42 On 10/06/10 09:26, Joe Curry wrote: > On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 23:23:47 +0100, William Black > <william.black(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > >> Security checks and long lead check-in times have killed a lot of UK >> domestic flights. Nobody wants to go through airport security or spend >> an hour in a departure lounge. > > Certainly not regular fliers, I suspect the annual bucket and spade > pax wouldn't know the difference? Well no, but they don't often take the shuttle flights from UK domestic airports to London. -- William Black These are the gilded popinjays and murderous assassins of Perfidious Albion and they are about their Queen's business. Any man who impedes their passage does so at his own peril.
From: Mizter T on 11 Jun 2010 07:07 On Jun 11, 9:55 am, Joe Curry <jcurr...(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:42:29 +0100, William Black > <william.bl...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > >>> Security checks and long lead check-in times have killed a lot of UK > >>> domestic flights. Nobody wants to go through airport security or spend > >>> an hour in a departure lounge. > > >> Certainly not regular fliers, I suspect the annual bucket and spade > >> pax wouldn't know the difference? > > >Well no, but they don't often take the shuttle flights from UK domestic > >airports to London. > > True..one does not often see shuttle pax buy big pints of beer at > airport bars early mornings. :-) How much bigger is a big pint compared to a small pint?
From: William Black on 11 Jun 2010 11:58 On 11/06/10 16:12, Roland Perry wrote: > In message <hup49k$kd$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, at 23:23:47 on Wed, > 9 Jun 2010, William Black <william.black(a)hotmail.co.uk> remarked: >>>>> Only a matter of time before BA and bmi London connections from ALL UK >>>>> regionals are bypassed by foreign airlines.? >>> >>>> There haven't been Birmingham-London flights for a long time, so it's >>>> already happening. >>> >>> Interesting..are there any alternatives? >> >> Leeds, Manchester, get in a car and take an hour and a half drive, > > Hour and a half in a car with a blue light on the roof! > > According to Google Maps, Leeds to Heathrow is 196 miles and 3hrs 16 > minutes (and I've failed to do it in four hours from Nottingham before > now, which is a good hour south of Leeds)) and Manchester 207 miles and > 3hr 28mins; then there's the half hour to get from LHR long term parking > to the terminals. > > Or did you mean Leeds to Manchester? No flights. Birmingham to London 116 miles, just under two hours, but nobody actually ever wants to go to Heathrow. If you're flying to London you always want to go somewhere that ISN'T the airport... -- William Black These are the gilded popinjays and murderous assassins of Perfidious Albion and they are about their Queen's business. Any man who impedes their passage does so at his own peril.
From: Mizter T on 11 Jun 2010 17:25 On Jun 11, 9:06 pm, Roland Perry <rol...(a)perry.co.uk> wrote: > In message <hutmf8$n9...(a)news.eternal-september.org>, at 16:58:32 on > Fri, 11 Jun 2010, William Black <william.bl...(a)hotmail.co.uk> remarked: > >[snip] > >Birmingham to London > > >116 miles, just under two hours, but nobody actually ever wants to go > >to Heathrow. > > >If you're flying to London you always want to go somewhere that ISN'T > >the airport... > > Apparently not. BA's own (2008) figures show that the proportion of > transit (to-rest-of-world) passengers on their regional flights to > Heathrow are as follows: > > Manchester(-LHR) 75% > Leeds, Newcastle(-LHR) 55-60% > Edinburgh, Glasgow and Aberdeen(-LHR) "almost half". > > There's a pattern there, which suggests that if Birmingham-LHR flights > still existed, it would be well above 75% I'm not sure I'd be so quick in making that assumption based on those figures - Birmingham is closer to London (and Heathrow), and my take on things is that such a short transfer flight might well be shunned by many (Manchester being far enough for more people to opt for the domestic transfer flight).
From: William Black on 11 Jun 2010 19:08
On 11/06/10 21:06, Roland Perry wrote: > In message <hutmf8$n92$5(a)news.eternal-september.org>, at 16:58:32 on > Fri, 11 Jun 2010, William Black <william.black(a)hotmail.co.uk> remarked: >>>>>>> Only a matter of time before BA and bmi London connections from >>>>>>> ALL UK >>>>>>> regionals are bypassed by foreign airlines.? >>>>> >>>>>> There haven't been Birmingham-London flights for a long time, so it's >>>>>> already happening. >>>>> >>>>> Interesting..are there any alternatives? >>>> >>>> Leeds, Manchester, get in a car and take an hour and a half drive, >>> >>> Hour and a half in a car with a blue light on the roof! >>> >>> According to Google Maps, Leeds to Heathrow is 196 miles and 3hrs 16 >>> minutes (and I've failed to do it in four hours from Nottingham before >>> now, which is a good hour south of Leeds)) and Manchester 207 miles and >>> 3hr 28mins; then there's the half hour to get from LHR long term parking >>> to the terminals. >>> >>> Or did you mean Leeds to Manchester? No flights. >> >> Birmingham to London >> >> 116 miles, just under two hours, but nobody actually ever wants to go >> to Heathrow. >> >> If you're flying to London you always want to go somewhere that ISN'T >> the airport... > > Apparently not. BA's own (2008) figures show that the proportion of > transit (to-rest-of-world) passengers on their regional flights to > Heathrow are as follows: > > Manchester(-LHR) 75% > Leeds, Newcastle(-LHR) 55-60% > Edinburgh, Glasgow and Aberdeen(-LHR) "almost half". > > There's a pattern there, which suggests that if Birmingham-LHR flights > still existed, it would be well above 75% They're still not stopping at Heathrow. Nobody ever wants to be there, everyone is on the way to somewhere else, it's the nature of large airports... -- William Black These are the gilded popinjays and murderous assassins of Perfidious Albion and they are about their Queen's business. Any man who impedes their passage does so at his own peril. |