From: Banty on
In article <5fukkiF3dcla2U1(a)mid.individual.net>, ant says...
>
>DaveM wrote:
>> On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 11:45:06 +1000, "ant"
>> <lotto_officialmail(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> I think most of us can see that the footage from the talk show will
>>> be gold to the airline's defence! Now the rest of the story starts
>>> to emerge. The flight attendant wouldn't have made a situation out
>>> of nothing. Nice that the mother exposed her kid's awfulness to the
>>> nation... and I suspect the mother doesn't realise how atrocious her
>>> kid's behaviour is, and has never taught it to behave.
>>
>> Bzzzzt. "Nineteen month old kid". Sorry to break this to you, but
>> everyone who has had kids knows what this age is like and surprise,
>> surprise, you were like this once.
>
>I don't understand your point. The kid behaved disgustingly,

By saying "bye bye plane"??

>a FA objected,
>and they were kicked off. I suspect the mother also started to misbehave.
>Everyone goes off about the evil airline targeting a poor defenceless lady
>and her dear cute little kid, and then the stupid mother exposes her
>horrible child's vile misbehaviour to the world on a TV show.

A perusal around newspaper opinion sites and web blogs shows that folks are
drawing a distinction between this case and, for example, the earlier case of
the toddler whose parents refused to get her seated.

Which kinda goes to, y'know - life. Sometimes one 'side' is more justified;
sometimes the other.

>
>I suspect that the mother had no concept that her little darling's behaviour
>was vile, and should be kept apart from civilised society.

Have you even read up on this case?

Banty

From: DaveM on
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 23:09:57 +1000, "ant" <lotto_officialmail(a)yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

>DaveM wrote:
>> On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 11:45:06 +1000, "ant"
>> <lotto_officialmail(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> I think most of us can see that the footage from the talk show will
>>> be gold to the airline's defence! Now the rest of the story starts
>>> to emerge. The flight attendant wouldn't have made a situation out
>>> of nothing. Nice that the mother exposed her kid's awfulness to the
>>> nation... and I suspect the mother doesn't realise how atrocious her
>>> kid's behaviour is, and has never taught it to behave.
>>
>> Bzzzzt. "Nineteen month old kid". Sorry to break this to you, but
>> everyone who has had kids knows what this age is like and surprise,
>> surprise, you were like this once.
>
>I don't understand your point. The kid behaved disgustingly,

All the reports said the child was saying, "Bye, bye, plane". Des this pass
for disgusting behaviour on your planet or do you know something you're not
telling us?


>a FA objected, and they were kicked off. I suspect the mother also started
>to misbehave.

The mother's alleged behaviour is the reason they were ejected.

>Everyone goes off about the evil airline targeting a poor defenceless lady
>and her dear cute little kid, and then the stupid mother exposes her
>horrible child's vile misbehaviour to the world on a TV show.

The footage doesn't tell us anything about the child's behaviour on the
plane. And anyone who doesn't know how a nineteen month child _may_ behave
is so wet behind the ears they probably think saying "Bye, bye, plane" is
disgusting behaviour.

DaveM
From: Jim Davis on
On Jul 14, 9:37 pm, DaveM <asm...(a)dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 11:45:06 +1000, "ant" <lotto_officialm...(a)yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> >I think most of us can see that the footage
>
> Got a URL for it?
>
> DaveM

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3371901&page=1

From: Jim Davis on
On Jul 14, 9:42 pm, DaveM <asm...(a)dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 11:45:06 +1000, "ant" <lotto_officialm...(a)yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> >I think most of us can see that the footage from the talk show will be gold
> >to the airline's defence! Now the rest of the story starts to emerge. The
> >flight attendant wouldn't have made a situation out of nothing. Nice that
> >the mother exposed her kid's awfulness to the nation... and I suspect the
> >mother doesn't realise how atrocious her kid's behaviour is, and has never
> >taught it to behave.
>
> Bzzzzt. "Nineteen month old kid". Sorry to break this to you, but everyone
> who has had kids knows what this age is like and surprise, surprise, you
> were like this once.
>
> DaveM

It seems, by the latest video I found, that the other passengers were
on the side of the mother. The kid was "fidgetty" during the
interview, but what kid that age wouldn't be.

From: Jim Davis on
On Jul 15, 8:09 am, "ant" <lotto_officialm...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> DaveM wrote:
> > On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 11:45:06 +1000, "ant"
> > <lotto_officialm...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >> I think most of us can see that the footage from the talk show will
> >> be gold to the airline's defence! Now the rest of the story starts
> >> to emerge. The flight attendant wouldn't have made a situation out
> >> of nothing. Nice that the mother exposed her kid's awfulness to the
> >> nation... and I suspect the mother doesn't realise how atrocious her
> >> kid's behaviour is, and has never taught it to behave.
>
> > Bzzzzt. "Nineteen month old kid". Sorry to break this to you, but
> > everyone who has had kids knows what this age is like and surprise,
> > surprise, you were like this once.
>
> I don't understand your point. The kid behaved disgustingly, a FA objected,
> and they were kicked off. I suspect the mother also started to misbehave.

You seem to be against the mother & kid right from the beginning. As
I see other reports, this may not be the case. Other passengers are
speaking up against the FA.

> Everyone goes off about the evil airline targeting a poor defenceless lady
> and her dear cute little kid, and then the stupid mother exposes her
> horrible child's vile misbehaviour to the world on a TV show.

The kid seemed normal on the interview.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3371901&page=1

Yes, he was a bit "fidigetty", but nothing that I would consider
turning around a flight for.

> I suspect that the mother had no concept that her little darling's behaviour
> was vile, and should be kept apart from civilised society.

You seem to have a zero tolerance level. That's not good either. I
don't know how much flying you do, but lately, I've seen some FA's
that should be slapped up side the head a few times.

> ant
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