From: aquachimp on
On Apr 25, 4:06 pm, AlanG <inva...(a)invalid.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 04:27:33 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Dave
>
> <davidco...(a)t-online.de> wrote:
> >On Apr 25, 12:18 pm, Holly Buddy <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8642637.stm
>
> >> hardy fuckin ha!
>
> >Nice one.
>
> >A colleague of mine had a good idea about bull fighting.  He said he
> >wouldn't mind so much if they evened it up a bit and made the matador
> >drink a bottle of vodka before going into the ring so he wouldn't know
> >which bull to torment.  It would be funny too - I think it lacks
> >humour in its current "a bunch of cruel bastards mindlessly abusing
> >animals" format.
>
> I've never seen a bullfight until recently. Was on holiday in spain
> and got stuck in the hotel room for a few hours while it pissed down
> outside. I flicked through the tv channels and spotted a bullfight.
>
> There is very little bravery in facing a tormented animal that is
> weakened and bleeding to death from blades stuck in it.

Adding to which, a link within that page is headlined as "Matador aged
11 kills six bulls"
but the video shows the "bull" to be about calf sized.
From: James Silverton on
aquachimp wrote on Sun, 25 Apr 2010 07:09:08 -0700 (PDT):

> On Apr 25, 4:06 pm, AlanG <inva...(a)invalid.net> wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 04:27:33 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Dave
>>
>> <davidco...(a)t-online.de> wrote:
> >> On Apr 25, 12:18 pm, Holly Buddy <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8642637.stm
>>
> >>> hardy fuckin ha!
>>
> >> Nice one.
>>
> >> A colleague of mine had a good idea about bull fighting.
> >> He said he wouldn't mind so much if they evened it up a
> >> bit and made the matador drink a bottle of vodka before
> >> going into the ring so he wouldn't know which bull to
> >> torment. It would be funny too - I think it lacks humour
> >> in its current "a bunch of cruel bastards mindlessly
> >> abusing animals" format.
>>
>> I've never seen a bullfight until recently. Was on holiday in
>> spain and got stuck in the hotel room for a few hours while
>> it pissed down outside. I flicked through the tv channels and
>> spotted a bullfight.
>>
>> There is very little bravery in facing a tormented animal
>> that is weakened and bleeding to death from blades stuck in
>> it.

I've never seen a bull-fight but, from TV shows, it does seem usually to
be rather dangerous for the matador and there is unfortunately a human
fascination in watching a real fight to the death. However, the result
is usually inevitable and watching a death is rather like the
gladiatorial contests of ancient Rome. I believe the bull is *not*
killed in Portugal and that would seem a better version.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

From: aquachimp on
On Apr 25, 4:19 pm, "James Silverton" <not.jim.silver...(a)verizon.net>
wrote:
>  aquachimp  wrote  on Sun, 25 Apr 2010 07:09:08 -0700 (PDT):
>
>
>
> > On Apr 25, 4:06 pm, AlanG <inva...(a)invalid.net> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 04:27:33 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Dave
>
> >> <davidco...(a)t-online.de> wrote:
> > >> On Apr 25, 12:18 pm, Holly Buddy <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8642637.stm
>
> > >>> hardy fuckin ha!
>
> > >> Nice one.
>
> > >> A colleague of mine had a good idea about bull fighting.
> > >>  He said he wouldn't mind so much if they evened it up a
> > >> bit and made the matador drink a bottle of vodka before
> > >> going into the ring so he wouldn't know which bull to
> > >> torment.  It would be funny too - I think it lacks humour
> > >> in its current "a bunch of cruel bastards mindlessly
> > >> abusing animals" format.
>
> >> I've never seen a bullfight until recently. Was on holiday in
> >> spain and got stuck in the hotel room for a few hours while
> >> it pissed down outside. I flicked through the tv channels and
> >> spotted a bullfight.
>
> >> There is very little bravery in facing a tormented animal
> >> that is weakened and bleeding to death from blades stuck in
> >> it.
>
> I've never seen a bull-fight but, from TV shows, it does seem usually to
> be rather dangerous for the matador and there is unfortunately a human
> fascination in watching a real fight to the death. However, the result
> is usually inevitable and watching a death is rather like the
> gladiatorial contests of ancient Rome. I believe the bull is *not*
> killed in Portugal and that would seem a better version.
>
>There's a cat here who will sometimes be on the couch staring at me as I make to leave for work in the mornings; As per usual, I'll give him a last second bit of attention whilst I'm on my way out; This will be responded to by either leaning into my hand to direct the rub to where its needed, or he'll suddenly take a swipe at me. My "job" is not to get caught out by the swipe.
Perhaps I should dress up like a matador for just such occasions.
From: Uncle Dave on
On Apr 25, 1:52 pm, abelard <abela...(a)abelard.org> wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 04:27:33 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Dave
>
> <davidco...(a)t-online.de> wrote:
> >On Apr 25, 12:18 pm, Holly Buddy <michaelnewp...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8642637.stm
>
> >> hardy fuckin ha!
>
> >Nice one.
>
> >A colleague of mine had a good idea about bull fighting.  He said he
> >wouldn't mind so much if they evened it up a bit and made the matador
> >drink a bottle of vodka before going into the ring so he wouldn't know
> >which bull to torment.  It would be funny too - I think it lacks
> >humour in its current "a bunch of cruel bastards mindlessly abusing
> >animals" format.
>
> are you on the side of the islamofascists as well?

So you approve of cruelty to animals then? Looking forward to
reinstating hunting and bear baiting are you?

UD
From: Uncle Dave on
On Apr 25, 3:19 pm, "James Silverton" <not.jim.silver...(a)verizon.net>
wrote:

<snip>
>
> I've never seen a bull-fight but, from TV shows, it does seem usually to
> be rather dangerous for the matador

Anyone familiar with them will tell you that most bulls are docile and
won't hurt a fly. They get a bad press and different breeds do behave
differently, but I used to happily walk alongside them as a kid being
born and raised on a farm. One particulr one - a cuddly Hereford -
insisted on going in to the milking shed with the cows, so he could
get some feed. It was quite funny. I have met a few big buggers in
my time but, make no mistake, there is nothing brave about facing a
dumb animal who has no idea about what is going to happen. Any human
with their wits about them would survive a bullfight, though few are
so cowardly as to kill such a magnificent animal in ruthless cold
blood for the perverse enjoyment of others.

UD