From: Alpha on
Keane says:

> Right on schedule.
>
> http://www.examiner.com/x-40218-Fresno-Pop-Culture-Examiner~y2010m8d4-D
> isneyland-and-Walt-Disney-World-to-raise-admission-prices
>
> I've already got my AP voucher... :-)
>
> Saved myself a whole $10. (That 1.6%!)
>
> Keane

I was wondering whether they would increase prices this year, considering
the economic doldrums. We planned to buy our 10-day allthebellsandwhistles
passes before August, just in case.

I wonder if Disney is still planning to end discounts in 2011. The quote
from the CFO was that Disney would "no longer widely offer the deep
discounts..." It seems like people heard an emphasis on "no longer offer
deep discounts", when maybe we should be hearing an emphasis on the
"widely" part. Could it be that Disney will offer targeted discounts
rather than discounts to the general public? Perhaps DVC members, annual
passholders, Disney Visa cardholders, and/or D23 members will benefit.
Maybe there will be a return to postcard or PIN offers.

-- Alpha
From: Brad Bishop on
I kind of look at this as a good sign.

The OP indicated how crowded the parks were much to his dismay. The way
you fix that is by increasing prices. Increasing the prices gets fewer
people in the parks and keeps your revenues up while keeping the
remaining guests happy. Yes, it sucks if you're on the lower end and it
becomes too much - that's the way the market works, though. I have an
AP and I'll make the call about a year from now on what to do. I may
renew or I may say, "Yeah, it's getting too pricy.." but the last few
times I've been there this year I've thought, "This really is getting
too crowded..." - to the point where I was thinking about not renewing
based on that.

The other thing that strikes me odd: Don't the increase prices almost
every year at this time, anyway?

From: Lilith on
On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 19:11:31 +0000 (UTC), Alpha <notreal(a)verizon.net>
wrote:

>Keane says:
>
>> Right on schedule.
>>
>> http://www.examiner.com/x-40218-Fresno-Pop-Culture-Examiner~y2010m8d4-D
>> isneyland-and-Walt-Disney-World-to-raise-admission-prices
>>
>> I've already got my AP voucher... :-)
>>
>> Saved myself a whole $10. (That 1.6%!)
>>
>> Keane
>
>I was wondering whether they would increase prices this year, considering
>the economic doldrums. We planned to buy our 10-day allthebellsandwhistles
>passes before August, just in case.
>
>I wonder if Disney is still planning to end discounts in 2011. The quote
>from the CFO was that Disney would "no longer widely offer the deep
>discounts..." It seems like people heard an emphasis on "no longer offer
>deep discounts", when maybe we should be hearing an emphasis on the
>"widely" part. Could it be that Disney will offer targeted discounts
>rather than discounts to the general public? Perhaps DVC members, annual
>passholders, Disney Visa cardholders, and/or D23 members will benefit.
>Maybe there will be a return to postcard or PIN offers.

I'm no economist but this seems rather counter productive and counter
intuitive. Bad economy, hold onto your income. Go to Disney? Not if
it's costing me that much more. Higher prices mean fewer visitors.
Will those increased prices against the remaining loyals be enough to
increase the bottom line? Big gamble.

--
Lilith
From: BigBob on
^ Just to clarify my post...

The increase in the cost of an FL-resident AP ($10 on a pass or a
renewal), had zero impact on my decision not to renew.

The increase in the cost of everything at WDW, combined with cutbacks
and policies (e.g. the dining plans and "free" dining, and their
impact) that have greatly impacted *my* enjoyment and value to me, and
the decline in manners on display at WDW, does.

There are different experiences to be had and perceived at WDW.
If you are a family, booking a 5-day or longer MYW package, visit once-
a-year or two (maybe even score "free" dining), good for you.
Disney wants your business, and has bent the entire system to benefit
you (and, at my expense).
If you are a local annual passholder, visiting on daily basis, not so
much.
From: Raoul on
On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 15:38:21 -0400, Brad Bishop <bsbnntp(a)charter.net>
wrote:

">I kind of look at this as a good sign.
>
>The OP indicated how crowded the parks were much to his dismay. The way
>you fix that is by increasing prices. Increasing the prices gets fewer
>people in the parks and keeps your revenues up while keeping the
>remaining guests happy. Yes, it sucks if you're on the lower end and it
>becomes too much - that's the way the market works,..."

Disney has two ways to go, increase prices or reduce overhead. What
they seem to be doing is both of those simultaneously. WDW is a
premium product at a premium price. But based on a lot of comments
here, the perception of Disney as a premium product is showing some
wear around the edges. Once that belief takes hold along with one that
only the well-to-do can afford a Disney vacation, and they are in some
real trouble.