From: Keane on
On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 19:11:31 +0000 (UTC), Alpha <notreal(a)verizon.net>
wrote:

>I wonder if Disney is still planning to end discounts in 2011. The quote
>from the CFO was that Disney would "no longer widely offer the deep
>discounts..." It seems like people heard an emphasis on "no longer offer
>deep discounts", when maybe we should be hearing an emphasis on the
>"widely" part. Could it be that Disney will offer targeted discounts
>rather than discounts to the general public? Perhaps DVC members, annual
>passholders, Disney Visa cardholders, and/or D23 members will benefit.
>Maybe there will be a return to postcard or PIN offers.
>
>-- Alpha

I don't think we'll see the end of Discounts, but I'll bet we don't
see the 40% discounts we've been seeing, either. The parks are
becoming increasingly crowded year round.

(I'd say "Maybe the Dining Plans will go away, too," but I'm not
kidding myself...)

Keane
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From: Alpha on
Lilith says:

> I'm no economist but this seems rather counter productive and counter
> intuitive. Bad economy, hold onto your income. Go to Disney? Not if
> it's costing me that much more. Higher prices mean fewer visitors.
> Will those increased prices against the remaining loyals be enough to
> increase the bottom line? Big gamble.

I get what Disney is saying, that they feel the need now to wean the public
off deep discounting. And they said they can tolerate a short-term drop in
attendance to accomplish that. I guess it remains to be seen how much
tolerance they actually have, and how severely they're willing to pull back
on discounting.

Disney has done a number of things right lately, things that fans have
cheered. One thing I've often heard fans say is that their loyalty and
frequent business aren't recognized or appreciated the way they wish it
would be. If Disney is planning to offer discounts not widely, but
selectively, maybe this is another area where fans will cheer.

-- Alpha
From: Alpha on
Keane says:

> (I'd say "Maybe the Dining Plans will go away, too," but I'm not
> kidding myself...)

Free dining might not go away, but they're whittling down its value so much
that I think there will be fewer takers.

-- Alpha
From: Alpha on
Raoul says:

> But based on a lot of comments
> here, the perception of Disney as a premium product is showing some
> wear around the edges. Once that belief takes hold along with one that
> only the well-to-do can afford a Disney vacation, and they are in some
> real trouble.

You know though, I've been reading radp for about 13 years, and it seems to
me that in all the time I've been reading, there have always been people
worrying that Disney isn't taking care of the parks the way they should, or
that Disney is getting away from what made the parks great, or it's not as
good now as it was back in the good old days, or whatever.

Worrying about the parks seems to be a chronic condition of the Disney
parks fan. I'm not saying it's wrong or wrong-headed; it's just the way it
is.

-- Alpha
From: John L on
Oops. Paragraphs. Geeze how could I have missed those? Sorry. I get
going and that was the result. [ironman bonks his tin-head] I was on a
roll. Next time I'll try a bagel. (booo-hissssssss)

But hey, when I really get going, I can type 1,212 words per minute. Of
course the words all run together, it is one long sentence and it is
completely unintelligible. :-)

Thanks Keane. You da man.

peace out. john