From: JackM on
Alicia Koury Calsyn wrote:
> Sandi Femino wrote:
>> In article <Xns9DBB95D149870notrealverizonnet(a)188.40.43.230>,
>> Alpha <notreal(a)verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Is there anything you would wait in line 2 hours for at WDW? What's
>>> the maximum posted wait time that you'd go ahead and step in line for?
>>
>> 2 hours is a bit much. I think the most I have ever waited was about
>> 75 minutes, and that was for Toy Story mania this past January. It
>> was more a product of my desire to get out of the cold than a
>> willingness to wait 75 minutes.
>>
> I guess I am the only idiot here! ;-)
> I waited 2 hours for Splash Mountain quite a few years ago (when we were
> w/o kids.) The posted time was 120 minutes and we really wanted to go
> so I said "It is never the posted time!" Of course, it was LONGER, 2
> hours and ten minutes! I do not remember what the wait time was to get
> Tinkerbell and friends autographs when they FIRST came out--but it was
> around an hour! And we have recently (as recently as a couple weeks
> ago) waited in line for Toy Story when the wait said 90-100 minutes but
> we waited less than that--~70 minutes--more than once!
>
> I cannot get anyone in my family to move early in the morning so it is a
> given that Toy Story Fast passes will be gone most days! I have the
> opposite philosophy than most--we will be there again soon so if someone
> REALLY wants to wait in line for an hour or so, what's the harm! Hubby
> just got new Droid phone so some of my daughter and niece's favorite
> stories about out 7/13-7/30 trip was standing in line doing sliding
> puzzles of Tinkerbell and Friends and Lord of the Rings. "OOH this one
> is Legolas! You need to show it to Mommy before you go to the next
> one!" Several times (as Sandi stated) we got in the Toy Story line
> because we like it and because the daily rain storm was coming and we
> wanted to wait it out with some benefit instead of just standing inside
> a shop (blocking the guests that want to actually shop there) until the
> rain lets up!
>
> Part of the joy of WDW is enjoying just being there! As we stand in
> line, we usually meet the people around us, look for hidden Mickeys and
> just enjoy planning our next step in the process! I do not want to wait
> in long lines all day, but I can spend a couple hours in a line with the
> people I love most in the world to experience a ride they REALLY want to
> do RIGHT NOW! I cannot imagine a better use of my time!
>
> That being said I HATE standing around for 1 1/2 hours to stake out a
> good spot for fireworks. I almost alway find out that the 5-foot tall
> woman (with the infant in the stroller) who is the only one in front of
> me is saving a place for her 6-ft plus husband. Who will light up a
> cigarette as soon as he gets there! I would wait in line all day for
> Toy Story before I would spend the afternoon, in the sun staking out a
> parade spot that I will have to give up to go "tattle" on the smoker
> because he won't quit when asked!
>
> Even the lines are fun at WDW! I am at the happiest place on earth! :-)
> Alicia/xmasbee

Alicia! What a surprise! Hi, how are you? When are we going to see you
at a RADP meet in December again? Katie must be in college by now (or so
it seems!). LOL!

Jack


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From: Keane on
On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 08:33:45 -0500, Lilith <lilithpap(a)gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 19:46:40 -0500, Alicia Koury Calsyn
><akcalsyn(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>That being said I HATE standing around for 1 1/2 hours to stake out a
>>good spot for fireworks. I almost alway find out that the 5-foot tall
>>woman (with the infant in the stroller) who is the only one in front of
>>me is saving a place for her 6-ft plus husband. Who will light up a
>>cigarette as soon as he gets there! I would wait in line all day for
>>Toy Story before I would spend the afternoon, in the sun staking out a
>>parade spot that I will have to give up to go "tattle" on the smoker
>>because he won't quit when asked!

Squirt bottle. Have an accident.

>Or the hour plus I wait in a primo spot to tape the parade only to
>have a family sit on the curb in front of me. That I didn't mind
>until the CMs come along and tell them they can't stay there. So they
>stand up in front of me and push me back like they'd been there first.
>Maybe I'll have to do that next time.
>
>Very much ditto when you arrive really early to tape Illuminations
>only to have people actually squeeze between you and the railing. I
>think they've trained their kids pry your legs away from the railing.
>I finally learned to stand my ground and not yield even if I have to
>push back.

Make my day and tell me you hate the dads that put their kids up
on their shoulders and block your view right as the show begins...

Keane
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One of them is this, They have the power to make a wish come true...
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From: Ginny Favers on
On 8/6/2010 10:54 AM, JackM wrote:
> Alicia Koury Calsyn wrote:
>> Sandi Femino wrote:
>>> In article <Xns9DBB95D149870notrealverizonnet(a)188.40.43.230>,
>>> Alpha <notreal(a)verizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is there anything you would wait in line 2 hours for at WDW? What's
>>>> the maximum posted wait time that you'd go ahead and step in line for?
>>>
>>> 2 hours is a bit much. I think the most I have ever waited was about
>>> 75 minutes, and that was for Toy Story mania this past January. It
>>> was more a product of my desire to get out of the cold than a
>>> willingness to wait 75 minutes.
>>>
>> I guess I am the only idiot here! ;-)
>> I waited 2 hours for Splash Mountain quite a few years ago (when we
>> were w/o kids.) The posted time was 120 minutes and we really wanted
>> to go so I said "It is never the posted time!" Of course, it was
>> LONGER, 2 hours and ten minutes! I do not remember what the wait time
>> was to get Tinkerbell and friends autographs when they FIRST came
>> out--but it was around an hour! And we have recently (as recently as a
>> couple weeks ago) waited in line for Toy Story when the wait said
>> 90-100 minutes but we waited less than that--~70 minutes--more than once!
>>
>> I cannot get anyone in my family to move early in the morning so it is
>> a given that Toy Story Fast passes will be gone most days! I have the
>> opposite philosophy than most--we will be there again soon so if
>> someone REALLY wants to wait in line for an hour or so, what's the
>> harm! Hubby just got new Droid phone so some of my daughter and
>> niece's favorite stories about out 7/13-7/30 trip was standing in line
>> doing sliding puzzles of Tinkerbell and Friends and Lord of the Rings.
>> "OOH this one is Legolas! You need to show it to Mommy before you go
>> to the next one!" Several times (as Sandi stated) we got in the Toy
>> Story line because we like it and because the daily rain storm was
>> coming and we wanted to wait it out with some benefit instead of just
>> standing inside a shop (blocking the guests that want to actually shop
>> there) until the rain lets up!
>>
>> Part of the joy of WDW is enjoying just being there! As we stand in
>> line, we usually meet the people around us, look for hidden Mickeys
>> and just enjoy planning our next step in the process! I do not want to
>> wait in long lines all day, but I can spend a couple hours in a line
>> with the people I love most in the world to experience a ride they
>> REALLY want to do RIGHT NOW! I cannot imagine a better use of my time!
>>
>> That being said I HATE standing around for 1 1/2 hours to stake out a
>> good spot for fireworks. I almost alway find out that the 5-foot tall
>> woman (with the infant in the stroller) who is the only one in front
>> of me is saving a place for her 6-ft plus husband. Who will light up a
>> cigarette as soon as he gets there! I would wait in line all day for
>> Toy Story before I would spend the afternoon, in the sun staking out a
>> parade spot that I will have to give up to go "tattle" on the smoker
>> because he won't quit when asked!
>>
>> Even the lines are fun at WDW! I am at the happiest place on earth!
>> :-) Alicia/xmasbee
>
> Alicia! What a surprise! Hi, how are you? When are we going to see you
> at a RADP meet in December again? Katie must be in college by now (or so
> it seems!). LOL!
>
> Jack
>

She is supposed to be writing us all a trip report for a recent trip
with Kieth, Katie and their fist-timer niece!

~Amanda


From: Lilith on
On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 16:49:38 -0500, Keane <keane(a)keanespics.com>
wrote:

>On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 08:33:45 -0500, Lilith <lilithpap(a)gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 19:46:40 -0500, Alicia Koury Calsyn
>><akcalsyn(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>That being said I HATE standing around for 1 1/2 hours to stake out a
>>>good spot for fireworks. I almost alway find out that the 5-foot tall
>>>woman (with the infant in the stroller) who is the only one in front of
>>>me is saving a place for her 6-ft plus husband. Who will light up a
>>>cigarette as soon as he gets there! I would wait in line all day for
>>>Toy Story before I would spend the afternoon, in the sun staking out a
>>>parade spot that I will have to give up to go "tattle" on the smoker
>>>because he won't quit when asked!
>
>Squirt bottle. Have an accident.
>
>>Or the hour plus I wait in a primo spot to tape the parade only to
>>have a family sit on the curb in front of me. That I didn't mind
>>until the CMs come along and tell them they can't stay there. So they
>>stand up in front of me and push me back like they'd been there first.
>>Maybe I'll have to do that next time.
>>
>>Very much ditto when you arrive really early to tape Illuminations
>>only to have people actually squeeze between you and the railing. I
>>think they've trained their kids pry your legs away from the railing.
>>I finally learned to stand my ground and not yield even if I have to
>>push back.
>
>Make my day and tell me you hate the dads that put their kids up
>on their shoulders and block your view right as the show begins...

Consider your day made. Most notable was when I was taping the parade
at Disney Studios on a rainy afternoon and found the one spot where I
could get a good view and not get water on the camera. I'm righteous
enough to get angry but too polite to do anything about it.

>Keane

--
Lilith
From: John Mc on
Lilith wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 19:46:40 -0500, Alicia Koury Calsyn
> <akcalsyn(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> That being said I HATE standing around for 1 1/2 hours to stake out a
>> good spot for fireworks. I almost alway find out that the 5-foot tall
>> woman (with the infant in the stroller) who is the only one in front of
>> me is saving a place for her 6-ft plus husband. Who will light up a
>> cigarette as soon as he gets there! I would wait in line all day for
>> Toy Story before I would spend the afternoon, in the sun staking out a
>> parade spot that I will have to give up to go "tattle" on the smoker
>> because he won't quit when asked!
>
> Or the hour plus I wait in a primo spot to tape the parade only to
> have a family sit on the curb in front of me. That I didn't mind
> until the CMs come along and tell them they can't stay there. So they
> stand up in front of me and push me back like they'd been there first.
> Maybe I'll have to do that next time.

Be there before. For the nighttime parade at MK I find that one needs to
wait until they start putting out the ropes then stand at the ropes and
hold on to them when others approach. At parades where there aren't
ropes to delineate the parade route it's best to stand AT the edge of
the curb preferably with a stationary object like a light pole next to
you. This precludes folks sidling in from the side. The other thing is
don't move. Period. That's the other trick. When someone bumps you your
natural reaction is to move over or back. Just stand still.

You also need to be ready for the "But Disney is for the Children" ploy.

Here come the parents with Johnnie and Susie.

"Sorry kids. Those people are in front of us and <LOUD VOICE> I GUESS
YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE THE PARADE. I KNOW THIS IS OUR LAST DAY HERE
AND YOU REALLY WANTED TO SEE IT.</LOUD VOICE>

I've heard that one so many times I can say for them.

>
> Very much ditto when you arrive really early to tape Illuminations
> only to have people actually squeeze between you and the railing. I
> think they've trained their kids pry your legs away from the railing.
> I finally learned to stand my ground and not yield even if I have to
> push back.
>

Yes, we've seen this before too. Once we were waiting for Illuminations
and nicely offered to let two little moppets in front of us about 20
mins. before the start. By the time it began we had the parents,
grandmother and uncle in front of us. Now we wait for whatever parade
we're at to actually start and then make the offer and then hold hands
and/or the ropes. Back when Disney was doing Tapestry of Nations at
Epcot prior to Illuminations they would put tape on the ground to mark
off where one could stand. We were in our favorite spot. Next to us was
a family from UK. We warned them that people were pushy and rude when it
came to parades and such and that it would be best to stand at the exact
front almost on top of the tape and NOT budge. By the time TON had
started they were about ten people back from the tape.


John Mc.