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From: David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate on 22 Jul 2006 18:36 Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote: > JohnT writes: > > > So, yet again you don't know what you are talking about. > > That does not follow. What? I would say that it's a pretty safe bet that it applies to almost anything you talk about here. -- David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk http://homepage.mac.com/davidhornecomposer http://soundjunction.org
From: Mxsmanic on 22 Jul 2006 18:39 Dave Frightens Me writes: > The buiding produces nothing. Everything else can be controlled. Controlling it doesn't prevent it from producing heat. Any building other than a completely abandoned building generates heat, and that heat must be removed. If a building is perfectly insulated, it will heat up until it melts. If it is merely very well insulated, it might be able to do without any heating system, even in the coldest winters. But it will always need air conditioning, _especially_ if it is well insulated. > I think you spend that much now indoors anyway. It's getting to be hot nine months of the year where I live now--something I never expected even in my wildest nightmares. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.
From: Mxsmanic on 22 Jul 2006 18:39 Dave Frightens Me writes: > It's not a bad summation though. Can you counter it? I don't use emotional arguments in my discussions. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.
From: mrtravel on 22 Jul 2006 20:18 Mxsmanic wrote: > Iceman writes: > > >>Heating is a necessity. Air conditioning is a luxury. > > > Just as heating is a necessity when the temperature is 4 C, A/C is a > necessity when the temperature is 36 C. > > In fact, however, A/C is more necessary than heating, because it is > possible to diminish the need for heating by dressing warmly and > simply conserving body heat; whereas the need for cooling cannot be > diminished by any type of dress, since the human body generates heat > constantly, which must be removed. > How did the world manage before A/C?
From: mrtravel on 22 Jul 2006 20:22
Mxsmanic wrote: > Dave Frightens Me writes: > > >>You are grossly over simplifying things. > > > No, I'm not. That's what it boils down to, and that's what people > don't understand. > > >>There are many means of dealing with heat other than air-con. > > > The only way to remove heat is with refrigeration. The only way to > remove cold is with heating. > > The fundamental difference between the two is that buildings and > people produce heat continuously, which must be removed, no matter > what the weather is like. This means that you can keep people warm > just by insulating them, but you cannot keep them cool without some > form of active cooling. You can survive without any type of heating > even at -80 C if you are wearing the right clothing, but you cannot > survive for more than a few minutes at +80 C unless you have active > cooling systems to remove heat. What part of the world population needs the ability to survive at +80C or +176 F? |