From: Martin on
On 20/06/10 20:11, Tom P wrote:
> Martin wrote:
>> On 20/06/10 12:27, Tom P wrote:
>>> Martin wrote:
>>>> On 20/06/10 00:26, Jack Campin - bogus address wrote:
>>>>>>>> I am in the early stages of planning a trip to Europe that includes
>>>>>>>> flying to Rome, renting a car, then driving around the Adriatic to
>>>>>>>> Athens.
>>>>>> I gather he's planning a round trip, in which he'd better check if
>>>>>> the rental company allows him to drive through places like Albania
>>>>>> and Montenegro.
>>>>> The Bradt guide to Montenegro says the local folklore has a spoof
>>>>> tourist board slogan "Come to Montenegro - your car's here already".
>>>> Unless your car is a Mercedes in which case it is already in Albania.
>>> Reminds how back in the '90s in Moscow I saw cars being sold in a street
>>> market, they hadn't even bothered to remove the German license plates...
>>
>> Around the same time I sat next to a young Nigerian on a flight from
>> Rome to Schiphol. He asked me where he could find a good place to steal
>> a car that he planned to ship to Africa. Thinking he was joking I
>> suggested that there was a good choice in the airport car parks. Later I
>> found out that a car transporter leaves Rotterdam once a month carrying
>> stolen cars to Africa.
>
> The only time I had a car stolen was from a carpark at Heathrow.
> To add to the misery, I had just paid a small fortune for a week's
> parking before I found the car was gone.

I had one "stolen" from a car park in Amsterdam. It turned out that the
police had moved it and forgotten to tell anybody. It was parked outside
a police station for the two weeks it was on the police list of stolen
vehicles.
From: Martin on
On 20/06/10 23:28, Mike Lane wrote:
> Ben Dover wrote on Jun 20, 2010:
>
>> As I stated, I'm in the VERY preliminary stage of planning this trip. My
>> original intent was to rent a car and drive, from Rome to the Adriatic
>> shore, then hug the coastline. Thus the information I'm requesting has
>> more to do with driving regulations, country to country, than hotel
>> recommendations, etc. From the feedback I'm receiving, it sounds like
>> driving may not be worth the hassle. But any advice regarding hotels,
>> places of interest, is appreciated!
>
> You've got to decide on your itinerary and means of travel before thinking
> about hotels and places of interest etc.
>
> I don't think it's sensible to rent a car in Europe to take into another
> country, but have you considered buying or leasing a car under the various
> 'buy-back' schemes offered by some European car manufactures? If you did this
> you would be free to take your car where ever you wanted. Peugeot and Renault
> I think do this kind of thing. Have a look at this website:
> http://europeforvisitors.com/europe/articles/car_rentals.htm
>
> I've driven my own car from the UK to Greece several times, but I've always
> taken a ferry from Italy to Greece.

Us too. We took either the Ancona Patras ferry or the Venice Patras
Ferry. I took my car from Pireus to Naxos by ferry twice too.


> Driving through countries of the former
> Republic of Yugoslavia seems just too dangerous. Ferries go to Greece from
> Venice, Ancona, and Brindisi. From Rome, Brindisi would probably be the best
> - it's a nice small town and the ferries sail daily to Igoumenitsa and Patras
> in Greece.
>

From: tim.... on

""Kir�ly"" <me(a)home.spamsucks.ca> wrote in message
news:9HvTn.7377$z%6.4500(a)edtnps83...
> In rec.travel.europe Ben Dover <newshound2(a)charter.net> wrote:
>> Thanks, for your response. As I stated, I'm in the VERY preliminary stage
>> of planning this trip. My original intent was to rent a car and drive,
>> from Rome to the Adriatic shore, then hug the coastline.
>
> Be advised that the Croatian coastline is broken up by a little
> piece of Bosnia and Hercegovina that sticks out to the shore. If
> there's any country in Europe that will not be covered by Western rental
> insurance, it's BIH.

I didn't have any problem.

This little piece of land takes 5 minutes to drive through

tim



From: tim.... on

"Mike Lane" <mike.lane.usenet(a)ntlworld.co.uk> wrote in message
news:0001HW.C844468A001E81A7B01029BF(a)news.virginmedia.com...
> Ben Dover wrote on Jun 20, 2010:
>
>> As I stated, I'm in the VERY preliminary stage of planning this trip. My
>> original intent was to rent a car and drive, from Rome to the Adriatic
>> shore, then hug the coastline. Thus the information I'm requesting has
>> more to do with driving regulations, country to country, than hotel
>> recommendations, etc. From the feedback I'm receiving, it sounds like
>> driving may not be worth the hassle. But any advice regarding hotels,
>> places of interest, is appreciated!
>
> You've got to decide on your itinerary and means of travel before thinking
> about hotels and places of interest etc.
>
> I don't think it's sensible to rent a car in Europe to take into another
> country, but have you considered buying or leasing a car under the various
> 'buy-back' schemes offered by some European car manufactures? If you did
> this
> you would be free to take your car where ever you wanted. Peugeot and
> Renault
> I think do this kind of thing. Have a look at this website:
> http://europeforvisitors.com/europe/articles/car_rentals.htm
>
> I've driven my own car from the UK to Greece several times, but I've
> always
> taken a ferry from Italy to Greece. Driving through countries of the
> former
> Republic of Yugoslavia seems just too dangerous.

I think you are being too careful.

Certainly driving straight down E70/75 is no danger at all, though this
gives you no tourist stops.

E65 to Dubrovnik is no problem either.

(Unless you are driving an expensive car), as long as you are sensible where
you park up for the night you shouldn't have any problems other than ones
connected with general bad driving (which IME you will encounter in places
as civilised as Belgium)

tim






From: Mike Lane on
Martin wrote on Jun 20, 2010:

> On 20/06/10 23:28, Mike Lane wrote:
>> Ben Dover wrote on Jun 20, 2010:
>>
>>> As I stated, I'm in the VERY preliminary stage of planning this trip. My
>>> original intent was to rent a car and drive, from Rome to the Adriatic
>>> shore, then hug the coastline. Thus the information I'm requesting has
>>> more to do with driving regulations, country to country, than hotel
>>> recommendations, etc. From the feedback I'm receiving, it sounds like
>>> driving may not be worth the hassle. But any advice regarding hotels,
>>> places of interest, is appreciated!
>>
>> You've got to decide on your itinerary and means of travel before thinking
>> about hotels and places of interest etc.
>>
>> I don't think it's sensible to rent a car in Europe to take into another
>> country, but have you considered buying or leasing a car under the various
>> 'buy-back' schemes offered by some European car manufactures? If you did
>> this
>> you would be free to take your car where ever you wanted. Peugeot and
>> Renault
>> I think do this kind of thing. Have a look at this website:
>> http://europeforvisitors.com/europe/articles/car_rentals.htm
>>
>> I've driven my own car from the UK to Greece several times, but I've always
>> taken a ferry from Italy to Greece.
>
> Us too. We took either the Ancona Patras ferry or the Venice Patras
> Ferry. I took my car from Pireus to Naxos by ferry twice too.
>

Yes, it's a nice trip isn't it? We've tried Brindisi, Ancona and Venice.
Brindisi is a nice small town and the ticket prices to Greece are lower, but
I hate the drive down through Italy on their crappy motorways. We now go from
Venice, which is very nice - a kind of mini-cruise.

--
Mike Lane
UK North Yorkshire
email: mike_lane at mac dot com

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