New Counter Service Seating Program Trials
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From: BigBob on 6 Oct 2009 21:31 On Oct 6, 7:56 pm, Patty Winter <pat...(a)wintertime.com> wrote: > In article <96ccb62e-043c-4394-9037-ec0d640e2...(a)a6g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>, > > What is ridiculous about not letting people camp out at tables? Nothing. Let them start by keeping the Wishes campers, the overflow waiting for the Crystal Palace and the people taking a break where they can sit from taking all the available seating outside of Casey's. I've never once -- in 20 years -- been able to sit down and eat at Casey's -- and I bought food! While there busy improving the guest experience, try clearing and wiping the garbage from the few filthy tables that do open-up at Casey's. Then, let them tell the SpectroMagic viewers to vacate the tables at Pecos Bill's if they're not eating. If the other venues I mentioned -- not on the parade route -- were open, people needing to eat wouldn't have to deal with Peco's Bill. Disney created this problem, not the guests. > > >Want to try reducing congestion, how about utilizing the existing > >capacity you already have! > > That's a good idea, but even if all the counter service locations > were open, there would still be congested times, and people would > still hold down seats for 10-15 minutes before they actually need > them. > > Patty Well, Patty, there are always busy times. However, the system worked well for MANY years (prior to Disney artificially reducing capacity and operating fewer venues with shorter hours and inadequate staffing). We NEVER had the gridlock we experience now. People also had other less-crowded options to choose from. Not anymore. And, why should people need to be holding a table for "10-15 minutes before they actually need them" -- or longer? Who says we need to stand in 20-minute+ lines to order at Pecos Bill? We didn't have to before. Also, in the past, sit-down restaurants were able to absorb more of those wanting to eat. Fact is, they're not being utilized to capacity either. Sure, you can't get a reservation. But it's not because they couldn't be handling more customers. Disney has chosen to operate restaurants so that they maximize profit by eliminating excess capacity.
From: BigBob on 6 Oct 2009 21:32 On Oct 6, 9:20 pm, Patty Winter <pat...(a)wintertime.com> wrote: > In article <hagpjh$8u...(a)news.eternal-september.org>, > Ginny Favers <ginnyfav...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >Patty Winter wrote: > > [extraneous quotage removed] > > >> even if all the counter service locations > >> were open, there would still be congested times, and people would > >> still hold down seats for 10-15 minutes before they actually need > >> them. > > >Are we having no mercy on hot, tired people who just need to sit the > >heck down in some air conditioning for a few minutes? Really? > > Not when there are paying customers trying to find a table. Where > would you propose that those people eat their meals? > > Patty At one of the other restaurants that Disney has chosen not to operate.
From: Rudeney on 6 Oct 2009 23:57 Ginny Favers wrote: > > Are we having no mercy on hot, tired people who just need to sit the > heck down in some air conditioning for a few minutes? Really? Yeah, I see this being a problem for us. I always go get in line to order the food while Jan and Katie find a seat. I can tell you that they would be very upset if they were forced to stand in line and wait on the food before being able to sit down. IMHO, the real solution to this "problem" is to have more seating areas. So, who cares if it's a family of four sitting there sharing one soda and sending text messages? Being able to sit down and rest for a few minutes is just a simple human need that should be accommodated. -- - RODNEY Next WDW Vacation? Who knows! Need to know more about RADP (rec.arts.disney.parks)? http://www.radp.org http://allears.net/btp/radp_bk.htm http://allears.net/tp/abrev.htm
From: rct on 7 Oct 2009 08:10 Rudeney wrote: > IMHO, the real solution to this "problem" is to have more seating areas. > So, who cares if it's a family of four sitting there sharing one soda > and sending text messages? The people with food looking to sit down somewhere, you know, the ones that just spent 50 bucks on lunch. > Being able to sit down and rest for a few > minutes is just a simple human need that should be accommodated. Sitting down to eat what you just paid for is a simple human need that should be accommodated. Unfortunately, manners can't be legislated, and as long as they are not or can not be, there will have to be more and more "creative" ways to deal with a complete and utter lack of manners on the parts of, it would seem, most people. There really aren't all that many resataurants in America where it would be the least bit OK for a family of four to consume that tables' overhead by sharing a soda, including yours if you owned one. That wouldn't be OK anywhere, I don't see why it would be OK in WDW. rct
From: Joe on 7 Oct 2009 08:49
here's a post on wdwmagic from a Pecos Bill CM that clarifies some things: http://forums.wdwmagic.com/showpost.php?p=3784703&postcount=55 |