From: rct on
Ginny Favers wrote:


> > Sitting down to eat what you just paid for is a simple human need that
> > should be accommodated.  Unfortunately, manners can't be legislated,
> > and as long as they are not or can not be, there will have to be more
> > and more "creative" ways to deal with a complete and utter lack of
> > manners on the parts of, it would seem, most people.  There really
> > aren't all that many resataurants in America where it would be the
> > least bit OK for a family of four to consume that tables' overhead by
> > sharing a soda, including yours if you owned one.  That wouldn't be OK
> > anywhere, I don't see why it would be OK in WDW.
>
> > rct
>
> The difference between any other restaurant in America and a counter
> service restaurant at WDW is that the latter are inside a theme park.
> It's a different business model.

No "buisness model" that allows table overhead to be consumed by one
fountain drink in the average, or longer, time used to calculate table
overhead can last as a "business model". In that regard, Disney
restaurants in theme parks and anywhere else all have one goal, and
that is money per table per hour. There is no other way to run a
restaurant and at the very least not eat into yer overhead.

> Have you not been able to find a table?

Yes.


> I've surprisingly never really
> had an issue with it, except for maybe once or twice when I needed to
> wait for a minute or two.  I'm wondering how wide spread a problem it
> actually is, and if it's just at a couple of places and/or days of the year.

I've never seen anyone breast feeding. I've never had my ride delayed
by someone faking the need for a wheelchair. Chanting hordes of
Brazillians have never ruined my vacation. McDonalds did not end
Disney As We Know It. Mr. Toad has been forgotten. And on and on and
on, if it isn't a problem for you, it isn't. We would say, after very
many many visits in the last 20 years, that the dining situation is
only getting worse, and that the food being served is steadily getting
worse because of the dining situation itself. Make people happy that
they just got themselves a seat and it isn't hard to please them with
crappy food.

rct
From: Rudeney on
rct wrote:
> Rudeney wrote:
>
>
>> IMHO, the real solution to this "problem" is to have more seating areas.
>> So, who cares if it's a family of four sitting there sharing one soda
>> and sending text messages?
>
> The people with food looking to sit down somewhere, you know, the ones
> that just spent 50 bucks on lunch.
>
>> Being able to sit down and rest for a few
>> minutes is just a simple human need that should be accommodated.
>
> Sitting down to eat what you just paid for is a simple human need that
> should be accommodated. Unfortunately, manners can't be legislated,
> and as long as they are not or can not be, there will have to be more
> and more "creative" ways to deal with a complete and utter lack of
> manners on the parts of, it would seem, most people. There really
> aren't all that many resataurants in America where it would be the
> least bit OK for a family of four to consume that tables' overhead by
> sharing a soda, including yours if you owned one. That wouldn't be OK
> anywhere, I don't see why it would be OK in WDW.

If a person who just purchased food cannot find a table, then there
aren't enough tables. The solution is more tables. And if there isn't
any room at Pecos Bill for more tables, then maybe they need to open
another venue!

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From: Paul on
rct <Ron.Thompson(a)faa.gov> wrote in
news:d0cfbdbf-9737-48a8-a8cb-ed4d1b42c345
@l31g2000vbp.googlegroups.co
m:

> Mr. Toad has been forgotten.

This is blasphemy.

:)

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From: Lisa Cubbon on
Ginny Favers wrote:
> rct wrote:
>> Rudeney wrote:
>>
>>
>>> IMHO, the real solution to this "problem" is to have more seating areas.
>>> So, who cares if it's a family of four sitting there sharing one soda
>>> and sending text messages?
>>
>> The people with food looking to sit down somewhere, you know, the ones
>> that just spent 50 bucks on lunch.
>>
>>> Being able to sit down and rest for a few
>>> minutes is just a simple human need that should be accommodated.
>>
>> Sitting down to eat what you just paid for is a simple human need that
>> should be accommodated. Unfortunately, manners can't be legislated,
>> and as long as they are not or can not be, there will have to be more
>> and more "creative" ways to deal with a complete and utter lack of
>> manners on the parts of, it would seem, most people. There really
>> aren't all that many resataurants in America where it would be the
>> least bit OK for a family of four to consume that tables' overhead by
>> sharing a soda, including yours if you owned one. That wouldn't be OK
>> anywhere, I don't see why it would be OK in WDW.
>>
>> rct
>
> The difference between any other restaurant in America and a counter
> service restaurant at WDW is that the latter are inside a theme park.
> It's a different business model.
>
> Have you not been able to find a table? I've surprisingly never really
> had an issue with it, except for maybe once or twice when I needed to
> wait for a minute or two. I'm wondering how wide spread a problem it
> actually is, and if it's just at a couple of places and/or days of the
> year.
>
> ~Amanda
one of the things that annoyed me at Pecos Bill was when all
those folks would camp out on the tables next to the parade route
and just sit there! When I wanted to have my meal. But it's like
the folks who camp out on the sidewalk on Main St. Now we find a spot
down by Liberty Inn and can almost always find a spot to plop
in for the parades. Otherwise, I hope this new scheme will work.

Lisa
From: Mike Tuchman on
On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 21:06:57 -0400, Ginny Favers
<ginnyfavers(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>
>Are we having no mercy on hot, tired people who just need to sit the
>heck down in some air conditioning for a few minutes? Really?
>
>~Amanda

Not when they are taking spaces from people who already have their
food and need a place to sit and eat!

mike at tuchman dot org
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