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From: Ginny Favers on 7 Oct 2009 17:01 hiddenmickey wrote: > The only time in (approx 15 trips) that I have not been able to find a > place to sit was not in MK...but at DHS in the Backlot Express on our > trip last March. The only other time we come close to it (found > something within a minute or so) was at Yakatori House in Epcot. > > We've had problems sitting down in Yakitori House, too. Sometimes we've had to wait a couple of minutes. Only other place I've had an issue was in the America pavilion during a huge rainstorm. ~Amanda
From: Ginny Favers on 7 Oct 2009 17:06 rct wrote: > > Go back to the salad days, parks open 16 hour days most of the time, > all the restaurants humming away, fill them places the same numbers > they use now, you would never have heard us complain about something > as mundane as people sitting at tables. > > rct Amen. I can't understand how the parks managed to stay in business, back in the 70's and 80's. Everything was open, park hours were long, and the gift shops had unique and varied merchandise. The bathrooms and grounds were spectacularly clean. And the parks weren't packed! If they had that level of service today, Disney corporate would scream they're going broke and every VP would be fired. Hey, at least they are creating some really cool new attractions and shows. After 9-11, the cutbacks we see today were all there, plus the new stuff was often really lame. ~Amanda
From: Ginny Favers on 7 Oct 2009 17:07 rct wrote: > Rodney: > > I'm not auditioning for the new Bicker* slot, just pretty darn fresh > from second trip this year and the dining plan is wrecking it is all > I'm sayin, so, I'm not arguing with you at all. > > rct > > *Whatever happened to that guy? Anyone? He's a moderator at the Disboards. At least, he used to be. They may have tired of him, by now. ~Amanda
From: Rudeney on 7 Oct 2009 18:27 rct wrote: > Rudeney wrote: > >> Ours was at the ABC Commissary, but it wasn't that bad. About the time >> we made one round and found no open tables, one came available. > > Big place. We had to try hard to find a place to sit in there in > March, 1pm, 1.30 maybe. Hot day, place was packed. September ok > though. > >> Now for those people who say that guests without food, or without >> "enough food" shoudl not be allowed to take up tables, what about >> guests who do have food, but then linger for a while after eating? >> Shouldn't this be stopped, too? And exactly how much food is "enough" >> to justify taking up a table? Do you see where I'm going? > > Yes. It's called "work", and nobody wants to do it. > >> While I believe that it is rude for guests to occupy tables when they >> aren't eating when people with food can't find a place to sit, > > That is all there is to it, and nothing more. > >> I don't believe that Disney should police this. > > Of course not, that would be the aforementioned "work". No, what I mean is, if we don't want people who aren't using tables for eating to be occupying them, then we need to define that. What defines an appropriate use? If we get a bag of fries and a soda to split, is that enough to warrant using a table for 10 minutes? 15? Or not at all? What if only one person in the party is eating, can other sit at the table? I'm not trying to be facetious or argumentative here. These are reall issues that have to be addressed...unless...we add more tables! >> There are just too many >> exceptions and gray areas. Like I said before, the real solution is >> more places to sit. > > If the parks had enough places to sit for all of the people to sit at > anytime all of the people wanted to sit, there wouldn't be any rides, > just places to sit. I think you are exaggerating. I doubt you'd even have to increase the total number of tables at all - just open the restaurants that are closed, closed seasonally, or have had their hours shorted. > There can be no doubt by any observer over the > last...several years, that the eating places have so altered their > opening and closing times, which ones are open when, staffing levels, > etc., that they have had a pretty good impact on available eating > places open at all the hours people actually eat, not the times Disney > WANTS people to eat. Add to that the utter chaos and confusion that > the dining plan brings, and you've got Disneys' half of it. Now fill > them parks today with the same numbers of people we saw 20 years ago > and you have an untenable situation, because cutting back has led to > less actual seats for hungry people. Add the rudeness of people and > the effect is apparent. Yeah, I think we are on the same page, but to not give people a place to sit and rest just because we want to reserve tables for guest paying for food is ridiculous. > If we hadn't been through this umptee ump times we wouldn't think it, > but we have. The dining plan succeeds at filling the restaurants, or > at least they say it does, and the restaurants demonstrate clearly > they aren't up to that capacity because of changes to the hours of > EVERYTHING. > > Go back to the salad days, parks open 16 hour days most of the time, > all the restaurants humming away, fill them places the same numbers > they use now, you would never have heard us complain about something > as mundane as people sitting at tables. Fact is, we are hungry, lunch > at WDW is never cheap, and I at least expect to not have to either > fight for a table or circle like a vulture for twenty minutes to get > one, all while balancing my quickly getting cold food. I think that even without the dining plan, if restaurants were closed and hours for them shortened, we'd have had the same situation back then. -- - RODNEY Next WDW Vacation? Who knows! Need to know more about RADP (rec.arts.disney.parks)? http://www.radp.org http://allears.net/btp/radp_bk.htm http://allears.net/tp/abrev.htm
From: Rudeney on 7 Oct 2009 18:33
rct wrote: > Rodney: > > I'm not auditioning for the new Bicker* slot, just pretty darn fresh > from second trip this year and the dining plan is wrecking it is all > I'm sayin, so, I'm not arguing with you at all. No problems. We're just having a friendly discussion with some slight differences in opinion as far as I see it. :-) > *Whatever happened to that guy? Anyone? Like Amanda said, he left our "cesspool" and went over the DIS. I also found him on a forum called DBSTalk.com. It's a great place to discuss satellite TV services, but he hangs out in the OT forum that is all about TV shows. -- - RODNEY Next WDW Vacation? Who knows! Need to know more about RADP (rec.arts.disney.parks)? http://www.radp.org http://allears.net/btp/radp_bk.htm http://allears.net/tp/abrev.htm |