From: Ginny Favers on
rct wrote:

>
> But we agree for the most part. Whatever the case, whatever the
> problem, it hasn't turned us away for good, and I don't see anyone
> else in this thread saying that, so it can't be that bad. Right?
>
> rct

Actually, I have stopped eating at Disney's restaurants as often. We
are as likely to cook our own meal in our kitchen, if we have one, or go
offsite, as we are to eat at Disney. I wish Disney would give me a
reason to stay on property, it would be easier.

I just counted up how many places there are where I'd look forward to
eating, at all the resorts and parks (not counting DD), and came up with
24. What percentage is that?

~Amanda
From: Ginny Favers on
Erwin M. wrote:

>
> Feel free to tell me that I'm blowing smoke out of the wrong end, but
> just based on what I've seen at counter service over the last 5 years,
> getting more orders into the kitchen at any given time only seems to
> make service less efficient. Getting whole parties into the queue would
> slow down the rate of orders entering the kitchen.

It's definitely true that after the food is served, every second that
goes by just makes the bad food worse. It would behoove you to eat as
quickly as possible. 10 minutes looking for a table and you might as
well throw Disney's fries in the trash.

I think there was a table saving thread a couple years ago, but I can't
remember if anyone ran any math on the issue? There's been a lot of
fastpass math, seems like the same approaches would apply.

~Amanda
From: Lilith on
On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 18:32:50 -0700 (PDT), BigBob <BigBobxxx(a)cfl.rr.com>
wrote:

>On Oct 6, 9:20�pm, Patty Winter <pat...(a)wintertime.com> wrote:
>> In article <hagpjh$8u...(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
>> Ginny Favers �<ginnyfav...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Patty Winter wrote:
>>
>> [extraneous quotage removed]
>>
>> >> even if all the counter service locations
>> >> were open, there would still be congested times, and people would
>> >> still hold down seats for 10-15 minutes before they actually need
>> >> them.
>>
>> >Are we having no mercy on hot, tired people who just need to sit the
>> >heck down in some air conditioning for a few minutes? �Really?
>>
>> Not when there are paying customers trying to find a table. Where
>> would you propose that those people eat their meals?
>>
>> Patty
>
>At one of the other restaurants that Disney has chosen not to operate.

I agree with that, even if I'm not quite as intense as you. Has no
one at Disney studied queue theory? Spread your patronage out.
Provide distractions like sit down shows that take some of the crowds
off the street. Several times I've thought to go to the Noodle
Station in the hope that it would be open simply because I'd like
something a bit different than the rest of the park offers only to
find an sign saying "Currently closed." If they were open I'd be
occupying space outside the other restaurants instead of competing
with others shoulder to shoulder.

--
Lilith
From: Charlie Foxtrot on
On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:42:35 -0500, Rudeney <rudeney(a)mickeypics.com>
wrote:

>Charlie Foxtrot wrote:
>> On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 10:51:54 -0500, Rudeney <rudeney(a)mickeypics.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> If Disney refuses to add enough tables to accommodate all the guests who
>>> want to use them for whatever reason, then they need to enforce a strict
>>> policy of table usage. They should not just prevent guest without food
>>> in hand from sitting, but they also should prevent guests without
>>> "meals" from sitting. Fries and a drink can be consumed as you walk or
>>> stand. IF only one guest is eating, then the rest of the party needs to
>>> stay out of the restaurant so as not to occupy excess seats. Once
>>> guests are through eating, they should be given only a few minutes
>>> before vacating the table. I see this being no more heavy-handed than
>>> not allowing guests to sit at tables because there aren't enough. It's
>>> just as ridiculous!
>>>
>> Okay, then you are right there with my line of thought. Until the
>> last two sentences. It's not ridiculous. It's something that has to
>> be done at times.
>
>Ron, I think you missed the sarcasm in my statements.

No, that's why I said we were thinking alike until your last two
sentences.

> Now, I would have no problem,during
>crowded times, if Disney placed signs at the restaurant entrances
>stating, "Please reserve tables for guests with food." I think this
>would get the message out and 99% of guests would comply

Not a bad idea. I'm not sure about the 99% figure as the world just
seems to become ruder and self-absorbed by the minute.

> but I truly
>believe Walt Disney would roll over in his grave if he knew that any
>CM's were policing table usage.

Where's the guy who used to thaw out Walt every now and then? We
should ask him!

Foxtrot

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From: welshbelly on
On Oct 6, 9:06 pm, Ginny Favers <ginnyfav...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Patty Winter wrote:
> > In article <96ccb62e-043c-4394-9037-ec0d640e2...(a)a6g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>,
> > BigBob  <BigBob...(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> >> This whole thing is a farce, trying ridiculous ways to deal with a
> >> problem entirely of their own making!
>
> > What is ridiculous about not letting people camp out at tables?
>
> >> Want to try reducing congestion, how about utilizing the existing
> >> capacity you already have!
>
> > That's a good idea, but even if all the counter service locations
> > were open, there would still be congested times, and people would
> > still hold down seats for 10-15 minutes before they actually need
> > them.
>
> > Patty
>
> Are we having no mercy on hot, tired people who just need to sit the
> heck down in some air conditioning for a few minutes?  Really?
>
> ~Amanda- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Amanda- i think i agree i understand what WDW sees as the problem,
i'd feel a little guilty is we were just sitting with out eating-
though- but there have been many times we just need a long lunch and
hide away upstaits at he Columbia House.- -- i don't see how this
wont create more congestion in ques and lobbys- what a nightmare i
invision.