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From: hiddenmickey on 7 Oct 2009 13:34 The only time in (approx 15 trips) that I have not been able to find a place to sit was not in MK...but at DHS in the Backlot Express on our trip last March. The only other time we come close to it (found something within a minute or so) was at Yakatori House in Epcot. > What's weird is that, all the years of "table saving" threads here and > on other boards I've seen, you'd think on at least one of my trips I > wouldn't be able to find a table when I'm eating counter service. But > it's never been more than a one to two minute wait, when there's been > any wait at all. > > Maybe it's a bigger problem on holidays - I have only been at WDW for > the days before Easter, never on an actual major holiday. > > Has it happened to you a lot, that you haven't been able to sit down? > Where and when? What did you do? How long did it take to find a table? > > I think Disney does create a lot of their own problems with not opening > all the places they could. > > My biggest issue is that the park is a place where we all pay admission > to be. The restaurants are not separate corporate entities, they're all > the park. Perhaps they should provide cool, shaded places for guests to > sit that aren't restaurants? There used to be nice benches but now they > are all smoking areas. > > ~Amanda
From: Rudeney on 7 Oct 2009 13:49 hiddenmickey wrote: > The only time in (approx 15 trips) that I have not been able to find a > place to sit was not in MK...but at DHS in the Backlot Express on our > trip last March. The only other time we come close to it (found > something within a minute or so) was at Yakatori House in Epcot. Ours was at the ABC Commissary, but it wasn't that bad. About the time we made one round and found no open tables, one came available. Now for those people who say that guests without food, or without "enough food" shoudl not be allowed to take up tables, what about guests who do have food, but then linger for a while after eating? Shouldn't this be stopped, too? And exactly how much food is "enough" to justify taking up a table? Do you see where I'm going? While I believe that it is rude for guests to occupy tables when they aren't eating when people with food can't find a place to sit, I don't believe that Disney should police this. There are just too many exceptions and gray areas. Like I said before, the real solution is more places to sit. -- - RODNEY Next WDW Vacation? Who knows! Need to know more about RADP (rec.arts.disney.parks)? http://www.radp.org http://allears.net/btp/radp_bk.htm http://allears.net/tp/abrev.htm
From: rct on 7 Oct 2009 14:13 Rudeney wrote: > Ours was at the ABC Commissary, but it wasn't that bad. About the time > we made one round and found no open tables, one came available. Big place. We had to try hard to find a place to sit in there in March, 1pm, 1.30 maybe. Hot day, place was packed. September ok though. > Now for those people who say that guests without food, or without > "enough food" shoudl not be allowed to take up tables, what about > guests who do have food, but then linger for a while after eating? > Shouldn't this be stopped, too? And exactly how much food is "enough" > to justify taking up a table? Do you see where I'm going? Yes. It's called "work", and nobody wants to do it. > While I believe that it is rude for guests to occupy tables when they > aren't eating when people with food can't find a place to sit, That is all there is to it, and nothing more. > I don't believe that Disney should police this. Of course not, that would be the aforementioned "work". > There are just too many > exceptions and gray areas. Like I said before, the real solution is > more places to sit. If the parks had enough places to sit for all of the people to sit at anytime all of the people wanted to sit, there wouldn't be any rides, just places to sit. There can be no doubt by any observer over the last...several years, that the eating places have so altered their opening and closing times, which ones are open when, staffing levels, etc., that they have had a pretty good impact on available eating places open at all the hours people actually eat, not the times Disney WANTS people to eat. Add to that the utter chaos and confusion that the dining plan brings, and you've got Disneys' half of it. Now fill them parks today with the same numbers of people we saw 20 years ago and you have an untenable situation, because cutting back has led to less actual seats for hungry people. Add the rudeness of people and the effect is apparent. If we hadn't been through this umptee ump times we wouldn't think it, but we have. The dining plan succeeds at filling the restaurants, or at least they say it does, and the restaurants demonstrate clearly they aren't up to that capacity because of changes to the hours of EVERYTHING. Go back to the salad days, parks open 16 hour days most of the time, all the restaurants humming away, fill them places the same numbers they use now, you would never have heard us complain about something as mundane as people sitting at tables. Fact is, we are hungry, lunch at WDW is never cheap, and I at least expect to not have to either fight for a table or circle like a vulture for twenty minutes to get one, all while balancing my quickly getting cold food. Just like we used to! rct
From: rct on 7 Oct 2009 16:12 Rodney: I'm not auditioning for the new Bicker* slot, just pretty darn fresh from second trip this year and the dining plan is wrecking it is all I'm sayin, so, I'm not arguing with you at all. rct *Whatever happened to that guy? Anyone?
From: Patty Winter on 7 Oct 2009 16:30
In article <d0cfbdbf-9737-48a8-a8cb-ed4d1b42c345(a)l31g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>, rct <Ron.Thompson(a)faa.gov> wrote: >Ginny Favers wrote: > >> Have you not been able to find a table? > >Yes. I've had that happen quite a few times. Okay, Bengal BBQ is pretty much always hopeless, so I won't even include that. But AP holders tend to camp out on the patio at River Belle Terrace, whether they have any food from the restaurant or not. I ended up sharing a table with a woman once who had bought a piece of cake and staked out a table an hour or more before "Fantasmic." I also ended up sitting on a low wall near the carousel to eat my lunch because all of the tables at the Village Haus were taken. And there isn't always room to add more tables. Yes, more dining options would help, but that wouldn't eliminate all the crowding. Patty |