From: hummingbird on
On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 17:54:44 GMT 'Jim Ley'
posted this onto rec.travel.air:

>On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 06:08:47 -0800 (PST), shmat(a)xenon.Stanford.EDU (VS)
>wrote:
>>>And which airline's first class seats have less pitch and less width
>>>than SW? None.
>>
>> KLM and Air France on European flights.


>What first class seats on KLM and Air France have First Class seats?

Rotfl. Are you really this dumb Jim?
From: Tchiowa on
On Mar 2, 7:36 pm, hummingbird <RHBIYDTNP...(a)spammotel.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 12:13:58 GMT 'Jim Ley'
> posted this onto rec.travel.air:

> >Yep, it's called business class.
>
> Rubbish.

You repeat this refrain. Are you not aware that Business Class has
wider seats and better overall conditions that Economy?

From: hummingbird on
On 4 Mar 2007 16:26:57 -0800 'Tchiowa'
posted this onto rec.travel.air:

>On Mar 2, 7:36 pm, hummingbird <RHBIYDTNP...(a)spammotel.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 12:13:58 GMT 'Jim Ley'
>> posted this onto rec.travel.air:
>
>> >Yep, it's called business class.
>>
>> Rubbish.
>
>You repeat this refrain. Are you not aware that Business Class has
>wider seats and better overall conditions that Economy?

I'm not sure what you mean by "better overall conditions" but paying
large sums of money for a business seat (or even first class) does not
guarantee that your flight will be either comfortable or peaceful,
although I have always accepted that both classes of seat usually
provide a wider seat.

But there are plenty of uncouth slobs with loads-a-money who fly
BC or FC and drag their screaming shitty kids along with them or even
cause a big rumpus themselves. As I previously said, some celebrities
come to mind.
I know of an individual who always flies FC because he's a member of
the most important family in Dubai. On one occasion he was drunk on
board and caused a rumpus in FC and the FAs threatened to divert the
plane to dump him off.
Imagine the aggravation to other FC passengers while all that went on.

As a friend said to me some while ago "you might upgrade from economy
to FC to get away from screaming shitty kids and slobs, only to find
that you're seated close to a FC screaming shitty kid or a rich slob."

I don't know what the solution to this general problem is but I'm sure
that airlines do little or nothing about it.

Perhaps all passengers with kids should be located in one section of
the plane where they can be more easily controlled? I dunno. But this
problem, coupled to seats which are too narrow for larger than average
or obese people have collectively turned flying into an endurance test
for ordinary decent folk.
From: nada on
On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 10:47:49 +0000 in rec.travel.air, hummingbird
<RHBIYDTNPPAX(a)spammotel.com> wrote:

> I believe that airline seats are simply not
> wide enough for anybody larger than small-to-medium width;

so lose some weight, you lardbutt!

From: DevilsPGD on
In message <ch8pu2lkgcqge3bm927o0firer3qb4talp(a)4ax.com> not(a)here.com
(nada) wrote:

>On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 10:47:49 +0000 in rec.travel.air, hummingbird
><RHBIYDTNPPAX(a)spammotel.com> wrote:
>
>> I believe that airline seats are simply not
>> wide enough for anybody larger than small-to-medium width;
>
>so lose some weight, you lardbutt!

The widest part on my body is my shouldered, followed by my hips. Weight
gain or loss will change neither of those significantly on my body type.
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