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From: James A. Donald on 14 Dec 2006 02:47 James A. Donald: > > It is like negotiating with the Palestinians. Mxsmanic > Maybe. It can't be like the Israelis, since they > refuse to negotiate. They negotiated at Camp David, and look at the results. -- ---------------------- We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because of the kind of animals that we are. True law derives from this right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state. http://www.jim.com/ James A. Donald
From: James A. Donald on 14 Dec 2006 02:57 James A. Donald: > > It is like negotiating with the Palestinians. You > > cut a deal with the PLO, and then they say "thanks, > > and now for the demands of Hamas: ..." If you > > begin, there is no end. flaviaR(a)verizon.net > Thanks for telling us just what you think of everyone > who is not Xian. But there was no end: Consider for example Kwanza. And while the Christmas trees are designed to be as inoffensive as possible, "Goodwill to all men" the menorah is not - it the equivalent of putting a manger at the airport, and of course the Kwanza stuff is designed to be confrontational, and having put the not so innocuous menorah among the innocuous christmas trees, the next demand would be for the confrontational Kwanza stuff, and having put the Kwanza stuff, next come the Wiccans - we have already been through all this. That is why people don't put mangers out any more. If we have to go through it all with Christmas trees also, people will not put Christmas trees out any more either. It was too hard, it is too hard, and there is no end to it. -- ---------------------- We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because of the kind of animals that we are. True law derives from this right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state. http://www.jim.com/ James A. Donald
From: James A. Donald on 14 Dec 2006 03:05 dsharavii(a)hotmail.com: > > Better still -- buy a one-way trip to Saudi Arabia. > > There are NO Xmas trees in their airports -- or > > anywhere else. "Anarcissie" > I have been told otherwise. By the usual fans of terror and mass murder, who now that communism is no more, seem to be becoming fans of Islam. Did Beslan get your rocks off? > I think it's quite possible that the Saudis tolerate > various nominally monotheistic performances. Googling for Saudi persecution of Christians, the first hit tells me: : : At least eight other Filipinos arrested in : : the police crackdown on suspected Christian : : worshippers have reportedly been transferred : : out of detention cells, in preparation for : : their imminent deportation later this week. The next hit tells me: : : Islam is the official religion of the Kingdom : : of Saudi Arabia, and all citizens must be : : Muslims. The Government prohibits the public : : practice of other religions. -- ---------------------- We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because of the kind of animals that we are. True law derives from this right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state. http://www.jim.com/ James A. Donald
From: James A. Donald on 14 Dec 2006 03:18 "James A. Donald" > > > > > > > Christmas is a universal celebration, > > > > > > > heavily celebrated by pagans such as > > > > > > > Chinese and Japanese. It is intended to be > > > > > > > universal. "dsharavi(a)gmail.com" > > Christmas is a Christian holiday. flaviaR(a)verizon.net > And everyone I know who calls themselves Xian would be > offended at any suggestuion otherwise. Sounds like you don't know too many Christians. > > Who was suing against what display of Xmas trees? Past experience shows any concessions would swiftly be followed by new grievances from new people. There would be no end of it. Saying that all this guy wanted was a menorah is like saying that all the Palestinians want is security in their land rights and the release of prisoners. Satisfy one grievance, and you get a dozen more, for the real grievance is Christmas itself, as flavia and dsharavi's remarks reveal. If Christmas is a strictly Christian holiday, then any observance of it whatsoever, such as everyone taking a holiday at the same time, is a grievance and an offense. -- ---------------------- We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because of the kind of animals that we are. True law derives from this right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state. http://www.jim.com/ James A. Donald
From: James A. Donald on 14 Dec 2006 03:21
flaviaR(a)verizon.net > Your insistence that "Christmas is now secular and > erveyone must celebrate it or be considered a bigot > [the upshot of your "only those with a grudge against > it don;t celebrate it" post] " is not only insanely > fascist and bigoted, but just not logical. No one must celebrate it, but any one who not only does not celebrate it, but gets upset and offended by other people celebrating it, is indeed a bigot. -- ---------------------- We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because of the kind of animals that we are. True law derives from this right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state. http://www.jim.com/ James A. Donald |