Jews Strive To Restore Christmas Trees At Seattle Airport
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From: Mark K. Bilbo on 14 Dec 2006 12:17 On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 08:38:26 -0800, markzoom wrote: > > Mark K. Bilbo wrote: >> On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 22:02:49 -0800, Laura Sanchez wrote: >> >> >> Too bad Christianity doesn't return the favor. >> > >> > >> > Excuse me? It's Christians that are the only ones defending Israel and >> > denouncing anti-Semitism. >> >> By refusing to add a menorah to the airport display? > > It's not just some kind of festive decoration. > The menorah is the NATIONAL EMBLEM OF THE "STATE" OF ISRAEL Like the > eagle is to the US!: > > http://www.science.co.il/Israel-Emblem.asp > > I would find it highly offensive to have an 8 foot foreign state > emblem displayed by legal imposition in my country. But hey, maybe > yanks should know who their real masters are. That's stupid. Doesn't matter what it means in Israel, this isn't Israel. Here, many regard it as a religious symbol. If we're going to let one religious symbol be displayed on public property at public expense, we should let all of them be displayed. -- Mark K. Bilbo ------------------------------------------------------------ There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels.
From: brique on 14 Dec 2006 12:32 James A. Donald <jamesd(a)echeque.com> wrote in message news:th12o2tkgeepma87dbjctsps0cld3mpomj(a)4ax.com... > "James A. Donald" > > > > > > > > Christmas is a universal celebration, > > > > > > > > heavily celebrated by pagans such as > > > > > > > > Chinese and Japanese. It is intended to be > > > > > > > > universal. > > "dsharavi(a)gmail.com" > > > Christmas is a Christian holiday. > > flaviaR(a)verizon.net > > And everyone I know who calls themselves Xian would be > > offended at any suggestuion otherwise. > > Sounds like you don't know too many Christians. > > > > Who was suing against what display of Xmas trees? > > Past experience shows any concessions would swiftly be > followed by new grievances from new people. There would > be no end of it. Saying that all this guy wanted was a > menorah is like saying that all the Palestinians want is > security in their land rights and the release of > prisoners. Satisfy one grievance, and you get a dozen > more, for the real grievance is Christmas itself, as > flavia and dsharavi's remarks reveal. If Christmas is > a strictly Christian holiday, then any observance of it > whatsoever, such as everyone taking a holiday at the > same time, is a grievance and an offense. So, not going to answer the question then James? Who was suing against what display of Xmas trees? > -- > ---------------------- > We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because > of the kind of animals that we are. True law derives from this > right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state. > > http://www.jim.com/ James A. Donald
From: brique on 14 Dec 2006 12:36 James A. Donald <jamesd(a)echeque.com> wrote in message news:ur32o2pml2l2q7o6jrp89rmg02ebd0octs(a)4ax.com... > "brique" > > Nobody was 'sueing against the display of trees'. a > > rabbi threatened to sue if the airport did not also > > display symbols of his religion alongside the trees. > > But they were displaying trees, and not a manger, > because the manger is a symbol of the Christian > religion, and the trees are not. Hey, sorry if the facts upset your little pre-programmed rant.... but there you go.... > > Further, past experience has shown you cannot settle > this dispute by concessions. Any concession is met by > further demands from additional complainants, for the > real grievance is Christmas itself, as several people in > this thread have made abundantly clear. Past experience..... so, you are giving up on your libertarian campaign against the state then? After all, they can't concede anything to you, you will only ask for more...... > > -- > ---------------------- > We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because > of the kind of animals that we are. True law derives from this > right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state. > > http://www.jim.com/ James A. Donald
From: brique on 14 Dec 2006 12:37 Anarcissie <anarcissie(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:1166102817.463160.287480(a)l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com... > > Sancho Panza wrote: > > "James A. Donald" <jamesd(a)echeque.com> wrote in message > > news:ur32o2pml2l2q7o6jrp89rmg02ebd0octs(a)4ax.com... > > > "brique" > > >> Nobody was 'sueing against the display of trees'. a > > >> rabbi threatened to sue if the airport did not also > > >> display symbols of his religion alongside the trees. > > > > > > But they were displaying trees, and not a manger, > > > because the manger is a symbol of the Christian > > > religion, and the trees are not. > > > > If the trees are not a religious symbol, why is there so much fervor to > > display them? > > Yes, that's the question. Why is it so important? I'ts a convenient hook for every nutcase in usenet to pontificate.......thats the point.... >
From: brique on 14 Dec 2006 12:42
Tchiowa <tchiowa2(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1166087304.344568.199320(a)80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com... > > James A. Donald wrote: > > flaviaR(a)verizon.net > > > Your insistence that "Christmas is now secular and > > > erveyone must celebrate it or be considered a bigot > > > [the upshot of your "only those with a grudge against > > > it don;t celebrate it" post] " is not only insanely > > > fascist and bigoted, but just not logical. > > > > No one must celebrate it, but any one who not only does > > not celebrate it, but gets upset and offended by other > > people celebrating it, is indeed a bigot. > > Exactly right. So, anyone who isnt a christian or who doesn't pretend to be a christian for christmas is a bigot? Right. > |