From: Dave Frightens Me on
On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 11:46:59 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
<evgmsop(a)earthlink.net> wrote:

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>Mxsmanic wrote:
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>> David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
>> prestwich tesco 24h offy writes:
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>>>Fascinating. What rules are they?
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>> Mathematical rules, mostly. I'm not a composer myself.
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>Gosh, who would have guessed? (Although your claim to be
>completely emotionless is a clue - however carefully
>composers may follow the "rules", music is nevertheless
>primarily an expression of emotion - you can't "express"
>what you cannot feel.)

I believe that, truly.

The best music is always made by those who are emotionally
'interesting'.
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From: Dave Frightens Me on
On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 12:56:01 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
<evgmsop(a)earthlink.net> wrote:

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>Dave Frightens Me wrote:
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>> On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 11:33:44 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
>> <evgmsop(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
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>>>Stanislas de Kertanguy wrote:
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>>>>David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
>>>>prestwich tesco 24h offy avait ?nonc? :
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>>>>> but I'd almost pay to read Mixi's translation of any French
>>>>>poem.
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>>>>
>>>>That very poem is _very_ hard to translate (Char plays so much with
>>>>words that the result in English will only be a pale mock-up of the
>>>>original). However I am currently giving it a try, but that will only
>>>>render the main ideas of the poem.
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>>>....Whereas the most important element of any poetry is the
>>>precision of the words used!
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>> I wouldn't say the precision of words is important at all. It's all
>> about the ability to invoke a feeling in the reader. Even idiots can
>> manage that, and it makes good poetry.
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>Perhaps we are using different words for the same quality.
> Because poets work with words, they must know the exact
>words that will invoke the feeling they intend to call forth
>- you call it "ability" I call it "precision", but I think
>we're talking about the same thing. (The words may be
>simple or complex, it's how they're put together, and how
>they affect the reader, that matters.)

I think we agree. Precision it the ability to hit your target.
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From: Dave Frightens Me on
On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 20:06:55 +0100, this_address_is_for_spam(a)yahoo.com
(David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
prestwich tesco 24h offy) wrote:

>Dave Frightens Me <deepfreudmoors(a)eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
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>> On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 20:55:00 +0200, Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>> >EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) writes:
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>> >> I understand enough of the words to see the beauty of the
>> >> whole, but not enough to put it into English. That's why my
>> >> "comprehension" is inadequate. (Dolt!)
>> >
>> >In other words, someone told you it is pretty, you don't wish to
>> >disagree, so you imagine beauty where you don't actually see it. This
>> >is called conditioning. One sees it a lot in the arts, where people
>> >will refuse to admit that they see nothing of interest in a painting,
>> >concert, sculpture, opera, etc., simply because they're afraid that
>> >they've missed something and might look stupid if they confess that
>> >they don't see what's so special.
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>> In this case, Mixi speaketh the truth.
>
>Which part- the part where he levelled a gratuitous personal attack
>against Evelyn, or the second bit where he trotted out one of the
>standard platitudinous cliches about art appreciation?

I don't know. Neither of those.

I took no context when I said that. It's just a once off that Mixi's
actually right. But naturally, he won't acknowledge any sort of
'bigger picture', so he will probably just follow up with absolute
rubbish.
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From: Mxsmanic on
Dave Frightens Me writes:

> Colds are not a problem if you are of good health and maybe allow a
> day in bed to get over them.

Cold symptoms typically last for a week, and during several days a
person is highly contagious.

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From: Mxsmanic on
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) writes:

> As a generality, perhaps. On a personal level, not at all!

The general tone of your posts over the years correlates well with a
pattern characteristic of someone who wants to say the "right thing,"
either consciously or unconsciously through conditioning.

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