From: Dave Frightens Me on 16 Jul 2006 16:53 On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 11:46:59 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evgmsop(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > > >Mxsmanic wrote: > >> David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and >> prestwich tesco 24h offy writes: >> >> >>>Fascinating. What rules are they? >> >> >> Mathematical rules, mostly. I'm not a composer myself. > >Gosh, who would have guessed? (Although your claim to be >completely emotionless is a clue - however carefully >composers may follow the "rules", music is nevertheless >primarily an expression of emotion - you can't "express" >what you cannot feel.) I believe that, truly. The best music is always made by those who are emotionally 'interesting'. -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- --
From: Dave Frightens Me on 16 Jul 2006 16:55 On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 12:56:01 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evgmsop(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > > >Dave Frightens Me wrote: > >> On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 11:33:44 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" >> <evgmsop(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >> >> >>> >>>Stanislas de Kertanguy wrote: >>> >>> >>>>David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and >>>>prestwich tesco 24h offy avait ?nonc? : >>>> >>>> >>>>> but I'd almost pay to read Mixi's translation of any French >>>>>poem. >>>> >>>> >>>>That very poem is _very_ hard to translate (Char plays so much with >>>>words that the result in English will only be a pale mock-up of the >>>>original). However I am currently giving it a try, but that will only >>>>render the main ideas of the poem. >>>> >>> >>>....Whereas the most important element of any poetry is the >>>precision of the words used! >> >> >> I wouldn't say the precision of words is important at all. It's all >> about the ability to invoke a feeling in the reader. Even idiots can >> manage that, and it makes good poetry. > >Perhaps we are using different words for the same quality. > Because poets work with words, they must know the exact >words that will invoke the feeling they intend to call forth >- you call it "ability" I call it "precision", but I think >we're talking about the same thing. (The words may be >simple or complex, it's how they're put together, and how >they affect the reader, that matters.) I think we agree. Precision it the ability to hit your target. -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- --
From: Dave Frightens Me on 16 Jul 2006 16:58 On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 20:06:55 +0100, this_address_is_for_spam(a)yahoo.com (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy) wrote: >Dave Frightens Me <deepfreudmoors(a)eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote: > >> On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 20:55:00 +0200, Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) writes: >> > >> >> I understand enough of the words to see the beauty of the >> >> whole, but not enough to put it into English. That's why my >> >> "comprehension" is inadequate. (Dolt!) >> > >> >In other words, someone told you it is pretty, you don't wish to >> >disagree, so you imagine beauty where you don't actually see it. This >> >is called conditioning. One sees it a lot in the arts, where people >> >will refuse to admit that they see nothing of interest in a painting, >> >concert, sculpture, opera, etc., simply because they're afraid that >> >they've missed something and might look stupid if they confess that >> >they don't see what's so special. >> >> In this case, Mixi speaketh the truth. > >Which part- the part where he levelled a gratuitous personal attack >against Evelyn, or the second bit where he trotted out one of the >standard platitudinous cliches about art appreciation? I don't know. Neither of those. I took no context when I said that. It's just a once off that Mixi's actually right. But naturally, he won't acknowledge any sort of 'bigger picture', so he will probably just follow up with absolute rubbish. -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- --
From: Mxsmanic on 16 Jul 2006 17:06 Dave Frightens Me writes: > Colds are not a problem if you are of good health and maybe allow a > day in bed to get over them. Cold symptoms typically last for a week, and during several days a person is highly contagious. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.
From: Mxsmanic on 16 Jul 2006 17:08
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) writes: > As a generality, perhaps. On a personal level, not at all! The general tone of your posts over the years correlates well with a pattern characteristic of someone who wants to say the "right thing," either consciously or unconsciously through conditioning. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |