Draconian vacation policies for US slave workers
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From: Jordi on 10 Aug 2006 12:40 Hatunen wrote: > > I don't think that had anything to do with the point. > > >It will be interesting to see the stats once the passport for re-entry > >is mandatory. > > It's going ot be a major headache here in southern Arizona where > a fairly significant percent of the population is Mexican by > either birth or ancestry. Travel across the frontier is rather > voluminous, but the Mexicans here in the US tend to be of lower > socioeconomic status and passports for the parents and all the > kids is going to be a pretty big burden just so they can spend > Christmas with Tio and Tia. The feds are trying to figure out > ways for frequent crossers to not need passports. Well, if most border crossers are Mexicans, they already have a Mexican passport, right? However, I was recently in Tecumseh, ON, where crossing to the US (Detroit) is a matter of crossing a bridge and was told a not insignificant number of people do conmute from Canada to the US. J.
From: Hatunen on 10 Aug 2006 13:01 On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 17:14:23 +0100, The Reid <dontuse(a)fell-walker.co.uk> wrote: >Following up to Hatunen > >>>>Europeans don't have as far to go to get abroad. >>> >>>that of course doesn't make it untrue. >> >> >>No, but it raises a seriopus question as to the valdity of the >>satement " Europeans do travel abroad more than Americans" > >does it? I thought it explained why it might be true but not >unreasonable or surprising. > >>>>A great many of >>>>the foreign destinations for Americans don't require a passport >>>>(so far, anyway). >>> >>>what would be your guess on % of Americans who travel abroad and >>>who travel abroad beyond Mexico and Canada (a guess, I'm not >>>interested in a cites war). Are there a lot of countries US >>>doesn't need passports? >> >>Define "abroad". > >other countries So Mexico and Canada and the Caribbean islands are "abroad", even for Americans. >>And what are the figures supporting the >>statement that more Europeans travel abroad than Americans." > >the passport figures? If you have the numbers, that would address part of the question. ************* DAVE HATUNEN (hatunen(a)cox.net) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
From: Hatunen on 10 Aug 2006 13:04 On 10 Aug 2006 09:40:05 -0700, "Jordi" <jordi.uso(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >Hatunen wrote: > >> >> I don't think that had anything to do with the point. >> >> >It will be interesting to see the stats once the passport for re-entry >> >is mandatory. >> >> It's going ot be a major headache here in southern Arizona where >> a fairly significant percent of the population is Mexican by >> either birth or ancestry. Travel across the frontier is rather >> voluminous, but the Mexicans here in the US tend to be of lower >> socioeconomic status and passports for the parents and all the >> kids is going to be a pretty big burden just so they can spend >> Christmas with Tio and Tia. The feds are trying to figure out >> ways for frequent crossers to not need passports. > >Well, if most border crossers are Mexicans, they already have a Mexican >passport, right? No. because you don't need a passport to cross. Yet. and you may have missed the part where I said >However, I was recently in Tecumseh, ON, where crossing to the US >(Detroit) is a matter of crossing a bridge and was told a not >insignificant number of people do conmute from Canada to the US. And some the other way around. But I guess you missed the part above where I said "Mexican by either birth or *ancestry*. Even the Mexican by birth here in the USA may not have a Mexican passports. ************* DAVE HATUNEN (hatunen(a)cox.net) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
From: Mxsmanic on 10 Aug 2006 15:14 Jordi writes: > The average European family has a home, car, computer, mobile phone, > cable-TV and whatever else the American family has, and has more time > to enjoy it together. If only that were actually true. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.
From: Mxsmanic on 10 Aug 2006 15:15
Dave Frightens Me writes: > That is not a civil matter, it's criminal. It's called civil forfeiture, IIRC. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |