From: B Vaughan on
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 12:39:06 -0400, "James Silverton"
<not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not> wrote:

>"Frank F. Matthews" <frankfmatthews(a)houston.rr.com> wrote in
>message news:MUSRg.23343$4B3.17964(a)tornado.texas.rr.com...

>> In my experience the bread in France was quite good. It
>> simply lacked endurance. If you couldn't finish it within 1/2
>> day of purchase feed it to the birds.
>
>That's what real bread is supposed to be like: no oils,
>preservatives or conditioners to pretend it's fresh after a day!
>
>You can get what the French call English bread for toast etc.

The bread I make at home is still reasonably edible for almost a week,
and I don't use any conditioners or preservatives. It's a good crusty
Italian-style loaf, not the soft squishy stuff called bread in the
American supermarket. I make whole wheat bread, though, which is
something rather rare in Italy. Compared to the bread I can buy, it's
a bit denser in its texture.

A little olive oil added to the bread does help to preserve it, as
does using milk or part milk instead of water. I don't see this as a
bad thing. We are two people and maybe between the two of us we eat
three slices of bread a day. When I buy bread, I usually buy those
small skinny loaves (250 grams) that are all crust, and I still end up
feeding some of it to the birds or making bread crumbs out of part of
it. The bread I make gets eaten in its entirety, which, if you don't
like to waste food, is a good thing.


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From: Dave Frightens Me on
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 18:11:12 +0200, B Vaughan<me(a)privacy.net> wrote:

>Children, especially, are eating tons of unhealthy carbohydrates. TV
>advertisements push various Kinder (Italian, in spite of the German
>name) and Mulino Bianco products as breakfast foods and after-school
>snacks for kids. These are all basically sweets, not the basis of a
>healthy meal. The Kinder products always advertise milk as an
>ingredient and the packages always have pictures of glasses of milk
>being poured into the sugary cakes. However, milk is down there with
>the flavourings if you check the ingredient list.

Nice British spelling of "flavourings"! ;o)

These products are just fine, as long as they burn off those calories.
I start the day with a sugary dose of that stuff and a long sugary
coffee, and don't suffer obesity. These kids need to be kicked outside
to play or walk to school.

>The difficulties are 1) that now they are sedentary, and 2) that the
>bread and pasta now has a much higher glycemic index than it did in
>their grandparents' day.

I don't know about the second one, because it's not my area.

As to the first, I spent a lot of my youth sedentary playing video
games, but never suffered obesity. Generations of tv watchers did the
same, so I am not so sure that's a major cause. Then again, I always
liked walking...
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From: David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate on
Magda <chriscross(a)hey.eu> wrote:

> On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 18:01:21 +0100, in rec.travel.europe,
> this_address_is_for_spam(a)yahoo.co.uk (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the
> royal duchy of city south and deansgate) arranged some electrons, so they
> looked like this:
[]
> ... However, boiled egg with _soldiers_, that was something I hadn't had
> ... since I was a child! :)
>
> Tomorrow morning you can cut your toast into soldiers... ;)

What was the french term for them again? (Toasted bread cut into long
thin rectangles for dipping in a soft-boiled egg. When I was a kid they
were called soldiers in Scotland!)

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From: Dave Frightens Me on
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 09:58:36 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
<evgmsop(a)earthlink.net> wrote:

>For that I must take your word - I've not yet been to Italy. ;-)

What are you waiting for girl???

This place is enough to remind you of what life's all about!
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From: David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate on
Magda <chriscross(a)hey.eu> wrote:

> On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 21:10:17 +0100, in rec.travel.europe,
> this_address_is_for_spam(a)yahoo.co.uk (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the
> royal duchy of city south and deansgate) arranged some electrons, so they
> looked like this:
>
> ... Magda <chriscross(a)hey.eu> wrote:
> ...
> ... > On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 18:01:21 +0100, in rec.travel.europe,
> ... > this_address_is_for_spam(a)yahoo.co.uk (David Horne, _the_ chancellor
> ... > of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) arranged some
> ... > electrons, so they looked like this:
> ... []
> ... > ... However, boiled egg with _soldiers_, that was something I
> ... > ... hadn't had since I was a child! :)
> ... >
> ... > Tomorrow morning you can cut your toast into soldiers... ;)
> ...
> ... What was the french term for them again? (Toasted bread cut into long
> ... thin rectangles for dipping in a soft-boiled egg. When I was a kid
> ... they were called soldiers in Scotland!)
>
> Mouillettes. :)
>
> (Next time we are going to speak French, Mister! ;))

And Oscar can nod and smile (and eat!)- pretty much the case when with
my Scottish relatives! :)

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