From: flaviaR on

On 14-Dec-2006, constantinopoli(a)gmail.com wrote:

> However, if it is tragically and incorrectly decided in the courts that
> to display Christmas trees is to endorse Christianity, then Christmas
> trees should be removed rather than overtly religious displays such as
> menorahs,

Menorahs have been deemed secular by the courts who have
also deemed the trees as secular, too, even tho' neither is.

Susan

nativity scenes, and the like, added.
From: flaviaR on

On 14-Dec-2006, "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo(a)broomstick.com> wrote:

> "Laura Sanchez" <llaauurraasanchez(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1166076168.954667.199390(a)f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >> Too bad Christianity doesn't return the favor.
> >
> >
> > Excuse me? It's Christians that are the only ones defending Israel and
> > denouncing anti-Semitism.
>
> Excuse me? Christians used to burn Jews at the stake.

I' m betting that Laura is relying solely on a specialized definition
of Xian - as in, no true Xian would ever do that....

Susan
From: flaviaR on

On 14-Dec-2006, constantinopoli(a)gmail.com wrote:

> Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>
> > I notice nobody asking why it is tax money has to be spent on ornaments
> > rather than silly things like, you know, fixing potholes or even
> > something
> > really absurd like airport security...
>
> That attitude could help explain why socialist countries have such a
> reputation for being ugly, spirit-killing places.

Yeah, 'cuz they don't even bother to fill in the potholes, either.

Susan
From: flaviaR on

On 14-Dec-2006, James A. Donald <jamesd(a)echeque.com> wrote:

> James A. Donald:
> > > But Xmastime is the time of the return of the sun -
> > > it follows the shortest day of the year. Nothing
> > > directly to do, except symbolically, with the birth
> > > of that notorious Jewish heretic that you seem to be
> > > so remarkably upset by.
>
> Mike Hunt
> > That is the point. It is symbolically linked to the
> > birth of Christ, hence the name of the holiday.
>
> But then, your basic grievance, or flavia's basic
> grievance, is having a holiday on christmas,

You know you've lost more than the argument when
you have to tell such major whoppers like this.
Even if you don't admit it - WE know it.

Susan

hence the
> impossibility of appeasing the lawsuit mongers by any
> lesser measure.
From: constantinopoli on

flav...(a)verizon.net wrote:
> On 14-Dec-2006, constantinopoli(a)gmail.com wrote:
>
> > However, if it is tragically and incorrectly decided in the courts that
> > to display Christmas trees is to endorse Christianity, then Christmas
> > trees should be removed rather than overtly religious displays such as
> > menorahs,
>
> Menorahs have been deemed secular by the courts who have
> also deemed the trees as secular, too, even tho' neither is.

Excellent. Then it should be perfectly fine to display just menorahs,
just Christmas trees, or both, or neither, without any implications or
any basis for lawsuits.

Thus there is no basis for complaint that Christmas trees and not
menorahs were displayed. To complain about such a think is like
complaining that banana trees and not orange trees were displayed.