Jews Strive To Restore Christmas Trees At Seattle Airport
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From: Tchiowa on 14 Dec 2006 19:10 Sancho Panza wrote: > "James A. Donald" <jamesd(a)echeque.com> wrote in message > news:1q22o2tk6mvuj1rse31hh73mn9h6q2pc04(a)4ax.com... > > "James A. Donald" > >> > But you guys are trying to suppress even the secular > >> > aspects of Christmas - you were suing against the > >> > display of Christmas trees, not the display of > >> > stables and mangers. You are suing against the > >> > stuff that people see in Singapore > > > > "Sancho Panza" > >> Pretty fast on the trigger with "you guys." Just what > >> guys do you mean? > > > > By "you guys" I mean everyone that gets so enraged by > > the symbols of Christianity that they cannot even stand > > symbols that are associated with the symbols of > > Christianity - I mean commies, militant Jews, radical > > islamists, Gaia worshippers, the usual. Hindus, > > animists and ancestor worshippers somehow never have > > this problem. > > But you are saying in posts right around this one that it is not a religious > symbol. Which is it, religious or not? If it's a symbol of Christianity, as > you say here, why should other faiths not be similarly represented? 1) A Christmas tree is not a symbol of Christianity, it's a symbol of a national holiday. 2) Other faiths aren't relevant because of that fact. 3) Christmas is the holiday, not Kwanzaa or Ramadan or anything else.
From: Constantinople on 14 Dec 2006 19:11 brique wrote: > Constantinople <constantinopoli(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1166124936.750332.298810(a)80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com... > > > > Anarcissie wrote: > > > > > Holidays of enforced jollity are all part of living a life of > > > quiet desperation. As the great Quentin Crisp said, > > > "When people are happy there is no need for festivities." > > > > Witty, but as a serious statement about societies, incorrect and > > perverse. > > > > Hardly, what else were 'bread and circuses' then....... Brilliant: Rome provided free food and free theater to the Romans, and therefore Americans and Japanese and others celebrate Christmas because they live lives of quiet desperation. You might want to plug a few of the gaping holes in your argument. However I'm not holding my breath.
From: Tchiowa on 14 Dec 2006 19:12 Mark K. Bilbo wrote: > On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 22:02:49 -0800, Laura Sanchez wrote: > > >> Too bad Christianity doesn't return the favor. > > > > > > Excuse me? It's Christians that are the only ones defending Israel and > > denouncing anti-Semitism. > > By refusing to add a menorah to the airport display? ???? What would be the sense of that? What does a menorah have to do with Christmas? The holiday is called Christmas. Why would you put a menorah up at Christmas?
From: Tchiowa on 14 Dec 2006 19:15 brique wrote: > Tchiowa <tchiowa2(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:1166087304.344568.199320(a)80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com... > > > > James A. Donald wrote: > > > flaviaR(a)verizon.net > > > > Your insistence that "Christmas is now secular and > > > > erveyone must celebrate it or be considered a bigot > > > > [the upshot of your "only those with a grudge against > > > > it don;t celebrate it" post] " is not only insanely > > > > fascist and bigoted, but just not logical. > > > > > > No one must celebrate it, but any one who not only does > > > not celebrate it, but gets upset and offended by other > > > people celebrating it, is indeed a bigot. > > > > Exactly right. > > So, anyone who isnt a christian or who doesn't pretend to be a christian for > christmas is a bigot? Do you have reading comprehension issues? No one said that. It isn't that anyone who isn't Christian is a bigot, it's that anyone who tries to block celebration of a national holiday because their are offended by the holiday is a bigot.
From: Tchiowa on 14 Dec 2006 19:19
James A. Donald wrote: > James A. Donald: > > > But Xmastime is the time of the return of the sun - > > > it follows the shortest day of the year. Nothing > > > directly to do, except symbolically, with the birth > > > of that notorious Jewish heretic that you seem to be > > > so remarkably upset by. > > Mike Hunt > > That is the point. It is symbolically linked to the > > birth of Christ, hence the name of the holiday. > > But then, your basic grievance, or flavia's basic > grievance, is having a holiday on christmas, hence the > impossibility of appeasing the lawsuit mongers by any > lesser measure. Exactly. If they don't like Christmas then sue to have it taken out as a national holiday. Until then I think there are some maturity issues that need to be resolved in those whining about Christmas Trees. |